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 Post subject: effective self assessment guidelines
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:15 am 
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We are here in this world with very few ways to express and yet the ways that are here reveals our actual truth to us and others


lets start with the basics -- initially we are only self obsessed in self awareness --we act on what others say and defend ourselves vehemently -- like we never make mistakes and we really have a choice in what we say -- and we really have insight-- but inside is great turmoil-- we are actually really insecure and seek our place-- we have found only self awareness--and that is a place where we are isolated to the extreme--defending our decisions and our lives --where we belong to some groups because that way we can show that we care

in the first mentioned example--the breath is not yet real or realized -- the self forgiveness and self honesty is not yet real

wha6t happens first is a realization that all is futile -- when that is realized -- the breath becomes your savior-- this brings reality home -- that you have wasted your life on self awareness -- that if you die right now-- it was all a waste

then you start breathing to survive and you start to see you in this world--the real you and you discover shame -- without shame --you will never reach self honesty and will remain in justification and self righteousness

in this shame -- one will write and then reach the point where regret will emerge as one find some habits difficult to stop -- when regret arise -- the power of choice becomes real -- that is when we realize--we have no choice-- we have no individuality -- we have no rights-- we are in a limited environment with limited time wasting our lives on limited self awareness issues -- then choices are made that really become a self expression -- then the real you start to emerge

in this remember to write-- but also remember what you write others will see - especially when it is self awareness based and defending your sovereignty -- defending you decisions -- we all will write first and then eventually we will speak

watch what you are consistently -- in that is the real you

and if you stop and cannot write or speak -- know that you have not yet become self honest-- you are still acting in self awareness waiting for proof about who you are-- instead of creating yourself -- do not be a slave to your environment or those that you communicate with--they will attempt to take you to self awareness -- to be able to control you with right and wrong-- do not participate in debates about right or wrong

state clearly who you are and live it in every way-- and the temptations will disappear

thus

if you say you will do something -- do it

all excuses are always only revealing your uncertainty and where you are in process


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A friend of mine showed me this.

She carries around a small note pad and writes a list of
emotions that she notices within herself .

So on one side of the paper you write something like this

Remorse
Shame
guilt
resentful
fear
anger
worry
judgment
irritation
body
Etc, make it specific for you

She even has put names next to say anger because she was obsessing with someone who she felt did her wrong.

Then during the day you watch yourself to see when you are experiencing the emotion and then put a Check Mark next to it. If you notice it 10 times you check it 10 times

For example she was always touching her belly and being upset that it was fat. So next to body she would check that every time she noticed she was thinking "I am fat".

I have been doing this for a couple days and it is really cool to bring you present with your emotions. And it also makes a statement to Self that you will now become aware of this.

And then when you see you doing this you STOP,and or do SF to clear it.

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Thanks common sense, this was actually what I am stuck with atm

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watch what you are consistently -- in that is the real you

and if you stop and cannot write or speak -- know that you have not yet become self honest-- you are still acting in self awareness waiting for proof about who you are-- instead of creating yourself -- do not be a slave to your environment or those that you communicate with--they will attempt to take you to self awareness -- to be able to control you with right and wrong-- do not participate in debates about right or wrong

state clearly who you are and live it in every way-- and the temptations will disappear


I'll do that

and with what Adele suggested, the note pad - this is a great idea

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:26 am 
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Adele wrote:
A friend of mine showed me this.

She carries around a small note pad and writes a list of
emotions that she notices within herself .

So on one side of the paper you write something like this

Remorse
Shame
guilt
resentful
fear
anger
worry
judgment
irritation
body
Etc, make it specific for you

She even has put names next to say anger because she was obsessing with someone who she felt did her wrong.

Then during the day you watch yourself to see when you are experiencing the emotion and then put a Check Mark next to it. If you notice it 10 times you check it 10 times

For example she was always touching her belly and being upset that it was fat. So next to body she would check that every time she noticed she was thinking "I am fat".

I have been doing this for a couple days and it is really cool to bring you present with your emotions. And it also makes a statement to Self that you will now become aware of this.

And then when you see you doing this you STOP,and or do SF to clear it.


cool tip!


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instead of creating yourself -- do not be a slave to your environment or those that you communicate with--they will attempt to take you to self awareness -- to be able to control you with right and wrong-- do not participate in debates about right or wrong

state clearly who you are and live it in every way-- and the temptations will disappear


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this gave me the word self-awareness a new dimension


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:40 pm 
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Common Sense wrote:
We are here in this world with very few ways to express and yet the ways that are here reveals our actual truth to us and others


lets start with the basics -- initially we are only self obsessed in self awareness --we act on what others say and defend ourselves vehemently -- like we never make mistakes and we really have a choice in what we say -- and we really have insight-- but inside is great turmoil-- we are actually really insecure and seek our place-- we have found only self awareness--and that is a place where we are isolated to the extreme--defending our decisions and our lives --where we belong to some groups because that way we can show that we care

in the first mentioned example--the breath is not yet real or realized -- the self forgiveness and self honesty is not yet real

wha6t happens first is a realization that all is futile -- when that is realized -- the breath becomes your savior-- this brings reality home -- that you have wasted your life on self awareness -- that if you die right now-- it was all a waste

then you start breathing to survive and you start to see you in this world--the real you and you discover shame -- without shame --you will never reach self honesty and will remain in justification and self righteousness

in this shame -- one will write and then reach the point where regret will emerge as one find some habits difficult to stop -- when regret arise -- the power of choice becomes real -- that is when we realize--we have no choice-- we have no individuality -- we have no rights-- we are in a limited environment with limited time wasting our lives on limited self awareness issues -- then choices are made that really become a self expression -- then the real you start to emerge

in this remember to write-- but also remember what you write others will see - especially when it is self awareness based and defending your sovereignty -- defending you decisions -- we all will write first and then eventually we will speak

watch what you are consistently -- in that is the real you

and if you stop and cannot write or speak -- know that you have not yet become self honest-- you are still acting in self awareness waiting for proof about who you are-- instead of creating yourself -- do not be a slave to your environment or those that you communicate with--they will attempt to take you to self awareness -- to be able to control you with right and wrong-- do not participate in debates about right or wrong

state clearly who you are and live it in every way-- and the temptations will disappear

thus

if you say you will do something -- do it

all excuses are always only revealing your uncertainty and where you are in process



This is exactly what I am experiencing to the point.
It amazes me once again how specifc it is - and at the same time - how Common. LOL - we´re all the same.

When I am not stable - in breath - in writing out the lie - it is because I am still defending myself as the lie - and because I am NOT living the words I speak.

Down the rabbithole it goes...

I find it especially difficult to speak. I hear words coming out of the mouth - but it is almost painful as it is not me I am speaking.

Thank you B.

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thanks Bernard, this helped me put some things in perspective!


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thank you, this is just the way i'm "feeling" - i have only been in the process for this past month, and there is this vacuum where all my "feelings" of expressing myself as a "loving, compassionate woman" are i now realize not real. here i thought i had evolved in this life from being an angry bitch to a loving, lightfilled spiritual being. so now everyday, there's the angry bitch again, impatient, frustrated, angry - so i breathe, apply self-forgiveness,yet the angry bitch remains, so i guess i'll just keep applying and breathing. i write a lot now and have started writing the life story of my mind system - who i thought i was - pulling the strands of it out of me - everytime i have a question i find the answer on Desteni - yeah!


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Adele wrote:
A friend of mine showed me this.

She carries around a small note pad and writes a list of
emotions that she notices within herself .

So on one side of the paper you write something like this

Remorse
Shame
guilt
resentful
fear
anger
worry
judgment
irritation
body
Etc, make it specific for you

She even has put names next to say anger because she was obsessing with someone who she felt did her wrong.

Then during the day you watch yourself to see when you are experiencing the emotion and then put a Check Mark next to it. If you notice it 10 times you check it 10 times

For example she was always touching her belly and being upset that it was fat. So next to body she would check that every time she noticed she was thinking "I am fat".

I have been doing this for a couple days and it is really cool to bring you present with your emotions. And it also makes a statement to Self that you will now become aware of this.

And then when you see you doing this you STOP,and or do SF to clear it.


I wanted to clarify on this.
I put the word "shame" in there and it was more for the idea that you might feel "shame" because you lost a base ball game or something like that and when into self judgment.
But how Bernard explained shame in process is valid
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without shame --you will never reach self honesty and will remain in justification and self righteousness


It is the shame that you come to see of how you are limiting life within you by only considering self interest/ self pity.

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Common Sense wrote:

wha6t happens first is a realization that all is futile -- when that is realized -- the breath becomes your savior-- this brings reality home -- that you have wasted your life on self awareness -- that if you die right now-- it was all a waste



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I find shame also very important: But it's not to be mistaken with taking the blame for something and feeling fucked up for it. It happens to me sometimes that I get in a "mindset" and I think and think and think. For example, before I fall asleep. Then I see how much I think. I see what I do and then I stop. What is left there: the breath. "You are breathing man, that's what's real. It was NOT necessary boy, why the fuck were you abusing yourself?" kinda thing ;-)

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We are here in this world with very few ways to express and yet the ways that are here reveals our actual truth to us and others


lets start with the basics -- initially we are only self obsessed in self awareness --we act on what others say and defend ourselves vehemently -- like we never make mistakes and we really have a choice in what we say -- and we really have insight-- but inside is great turmoil-- we are actually really insecure and seek our place-- we have found only self awareness--and that is a place where we are isolated to the extreme--defending our decisions and our lives --where we belong to some groups because that way we can show that we care

in the first mentioned example--the breath is not yet real or realized -- the self forgiveness and self honesty is not yet real

wha6t happens first is a realization that all is futile -- when that is realized -- the breath becomes your savior-- this brings reality home -- that you have wasted your life on self awareness -- that if you die right now-- it was all a waste

then you start breathing to survive and you start to see you in this world--the real you and you discover shame -- without shame --you will never reach self honesty and will remain in justification and self righteousness

in this shame -- one will write and then reach the point where regret will emerge as one find some habits difficult to stop -- when regret arise -- the power of choice becomes real -- that is when we realize--we have no choice-- we have no individuality -- we have no rights-- we are in a limited environment with limited time wasting our lives on limited self awareness issues -- then choices are made that really become a self expression -- then the real you start to emerge

in this remember to write-- but also remember what you write others will see - especially when it is self awareness based and defending your sovereignty -- defending you decisions -- we all will write first and then eventually we will speak

watch what you are consistently -- in that is the real you

and if you stop and cannot write or speak -- know that you have not yet become self honest-- you are still acting in self awareness waiting for proof about who you are-- instead of creating yourself -- do not be a slave to your environment or those that you communicate with--they will attempt to take you to self awareness -- to be able to control you with right and wrong-- do not participate in debates about right or wrong

state clearly who you are and live it in every way-- and the temptations will disappear

thus

if you say you will do something -- do it

all excuses are always only revealing your uncertainty and where you are in process




cool thnks for this
I am realising this too...

And I´m going to do that tip about the notebook....is very assistive...
Really being Honest in the Moment!!

Also writing the names of the people you reacted...

I am also realising the Shame system...because Is funny how, when I am applying SF loudly i use shame as a justification to hide, behing myself...feeling ashamed even with myself, to Really listen this honesty.

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