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This is the reason why process are long -- and is the nature of manipulation and powerplay and the use of knowledge to validate self as apparently more because of experience-- this do not allow all to be in fact equal -- write about this illusionary disease that in fect all in various ways and is prominent in relationships, family, and where the spoilt do not get their way

Spite fools only yourself

Inspite of spite -- the spit of poison will only delay you and timeloop you --and see -- forgiveness will be inevitable as will revelation

spit and spite -- the snake and the temptation

spite-- the true nature of the dishonest

In spitefulness - In spite fullness

spitefullness, is that the same as hatefullness? Or what is it ?

Acts of self hate

many of the demons said to us when we were working with them -- before they saw forgiveness

that they are Demons to spite God and that they intend to destroy God's creation

Some demons abused children to destroy their innocence and get back at God-- as revenge -- another spitefulness

see those attacking Desteni -- the same natured attacks as demons

Spitefulness is a deliberate act - within which the being act in deliberate spite towards another within the deliberate intention to harm / break-down / inferiorize - the being within this act of spitefulness believing that they're harming / breaking-down / inferiorizing another - when their world will turn 180-degrees upon themselves as their world will show the spite they are.

Spitefulness is a form of mental-rape - within which the being acting in spite deliberately want another to break-down/react emotionally - so that the one acting in/as spite can through harming another in such a way - gain their experience of power, control and superiority.

The other on the 'receiving-end' of the one acting in/as spite towards them, is self-responsible to not give their power away to the one acting in/as spite - because, in essence - if they accept/allow themselves to react = they're only spiting themselves within the very acceptance and allowance of reacting.
Understand that; you become that which you react to/towards - thus, the being reacting to another's spitefulness towards them = become the spite they accept and allow themselves to react to through blaming the being for causing their experience, which would then from the blame - turn into 'revenge' and would become spiteful to 'get back at them' - when in fact they, themselves allowed their own reaction in the first-place.

All of this is done in full-awareness as a means to attempt to control and 'gain power' one way or another through using spite - the only way to control and gain power within spite is through deliberate harm unto another within the manifested-form of deliberate mental-rape within which the being 'feed-off of' the others 'break-down' and experience a sense of pleasure within it - always.

Spite is also used under the guise of manipulation - wherein the being would, for example, deliberately go into a form of 'self-pity' / 'feeling sorry for self' - playing on another's 'weakness' through having the other becoming what you're mirroring to them as self pity and feeling sorry for self - wherein the other will then pity you and feel sorry for you and 'play the game' of spite = so you'd use spite as manipulation to manipulate your reality to 'get what you want' through abusing others to get it.

The being accepting and allowing themselves to 'play this game' of spite that you project unto them - also becoming spite, through accepting and allowing themselves to be manipulated by you - because they're abusing themselves through self-compromise by supporting you within your design of spite as manipulation.
What'll happen here is that; an event will take place wherein the being that 'played the game of spite under the guise of manipulation' will 'regret' 'helping you' when they realise how they compromised themselves within giving you what you want - because in giving you what you want - something had to be taken from themselves = then they go into 'spite' as 'regret' - directing anger to/towards you - and in the anger using spite to attempt to manipulate you again - to 'regain' their control/power in themselves/their world that they gave away to you through falling prey to your spite-through-manipulation tactics.

Wherein the spite the being become within anger - is invalid as reaction towards you - because they accepted/allowed themselves to 'fall for' dishonesty/deception within another as themselves and didn't take self-responsibility in standing up within what they'll accept and allow and what not. Thus - understand = you'll also become the dishonesty/deception you accept/allow within another which you support within another that you participate in with them.

Thus, you only always spite yourself within/as/through your own acceptances and allowances.

MyKey

Thx alot!

Im going to give an example ok, see if I understand this spite thing.
i notice this alot in my family actually...

Like today with my brother, I was just reading about spitefullness here on the forum, and he came to my desk and saw a paper lying here about abuse of carnival-horses (ponies). He reacted on it by saying: oh, haha, abuse of carnival ponies.
I said: what? (didnt realise the paper was lying on this desk cause mom put it there). So I looked and said: yeah terrible isnt it.
he said: how r they abused?
I said: beaten
he: oh (raising his eyebrows and abit open mouth, to show "its not that bad then) , which followed by his words "only that?"

like that wasnt bad enough...

and he often reacts like that when he is around me and its about animal abuse, that he does that. I didnt react and I said to him that I noticed that he replies that way about animal abuse aruond me. He denied that

Another example is with my aunt, where they deliberatly say things that show they approve of animal abuse for our food. So I am nto talking about just animal slaughter, but that animals are beaten for it and stuff like that... so the actual physical abuse to give animals more pain. And they do the same as my brother, act like "its not bad", and my aunt often follows that by saying in grand gesture how delicious it is. She wants to touch "my nerv" lol, "a nerve" with me.. but it doesnt work because I dont react when she does that.

Great Post
Thanks Mykey
I am posting it on my blog

In fact I think it would be cool to post many of the forum posts on our blogs as well with tags etc .

PS the cool thing about Blogger and maybe others is that you can make the title of the article on your blog a link to a web site, so I will link it to the forum posts.

Yes

spitefulness

spiting themselves into experiencing what they justify

would you like a brother as a carnival pony?

Another simple example:

I caught myself the other day behaving in a certain way towards my son to get him to stop the way he was acting.

I was manipulating him. So this is spite (got to get used to this word - in Dutch 'spite' sounds like 'spijt' which means 'regret')

Yes, that's the word - spite.

In being on the receiving end of this when I was a child, I would go into shock, because I never expected spiteful behavior from my Dad and later my step-mom too. It always caught me off guard, and it still does, to a lesser degree. And with my relationships, friends and bosses - the same thing. I always felt guilty, like I must have done something to cause it, because why else would anyone act in a spiteful way?

Before reading the document about spitefulness, I never realized that self pity could be spitefulness. It makes sense though from the basic perspective of manipulating others through wanting them to pity us as well as devaluing life itself by even feeling or believing in self pity.

In investigating my self pity in my life, I discovered several things. That spitefulness and self pity comes from a desire of wanting to be special.
When I was around 6 or so, I remember taking my grandmothers crouches to the central train station and walking around with them as if I was injured. I did this to get attention, To feel different and special. Throughout my childhood I fantasized about being sick, breaking my legs, having braces and glasses. Without conscious awareness of it, I desperately wanted to been seen and some how within that linked others pitying me to that. At that stage it was not yet self pity but a child calculated copying others to survive. I also remember that my mother often got angry at me if I were sick. So that probably only made me even more wanting others to pity me.

Up until now, I have never connected the desire for being special with being sick and week. But I see now that it is simply the polarity of wanting to be the best or the most successful. It may sound odd, but somewhere inside me, I believed that I would be special if I got pity from others. As mentioned in the document about spitefulness, it never really worked that well. People never pitied me the way I desired, on the contrary it seemed as if they would be angry at me and call me over sensitive or something like that. That they knew, indirectly that I was manipulating them into getting what I wanted, which in this case was attention and love.

Another thing in regards to spitefulness is that I consciously pushed myself to be spiteful towards others. As a child and as teenager I did not understand Irony and sarcasm, and would often get hurt and confused if someone was being ironic or sarcastic. It seems that people use humor to manipulate others as well as saying things without being held accountable for it, because they could always make excuse that it only is a joke. It seems as a consequence of living in a suppressed society where manners and politeness is the only thing that guards us from killing and attacking each other. So instead we use humor and spitefulness i.e verbal attacks to get what we want.

I remember thinking that the only way I would be able to survive in society was to learn the art of timing and snappy remarks. So I did, and someday I stopped thinking about it and it became me. Without much thinking about it it has made me very happy that I was able to participate and be considered as cool in different social settings. I would simply observe the way people spoke and their interaction and then copy it. It has become such an immanent part of me, that I do not even notice it anymore. It is more like a basic survival skill.

But I do remember many times where I have used sarcasm and spitefulness towards others to gain power or to be seen as strong and cool. The opposite of being special I guess, is to be useless or nothing and it manifests as normality and to be ordinary as well. And the normality I guess, is the sum of the world. The bottom line of what we have created; And who wants to be associated let alone held accountable for that? And I guess the nothingness is the fear of giving up the mind for life, while uselessness is the fear of having no purpose, no place, which basically means the same.

So spitefulness is based on two things as I see it:
Wanting to be special and survival.

That the only way to survive is to pull others down before we get pulled down ourselves
That being special will release us from the responsibility of all life the way it is manifested currently in the world, as well as surviving as the individual mind.
So again, it all boils down to us fearing giving up the mind, as it is all we know and have learned to protect with all possible means.
And in this we physically and practically manifest this by acting out in giving and taking from ourselves and each other. In that sense, separation itself is spitefulness towards life in that we exist in spite of fullness and thus believe and live that we need to be fulfilled by something outside of us in one way or another, that being sex, food, relationships, words etc.

Im just gonna start writing what comes in my head together with the word "spitefullness", because my mind doenst really understand what spitefullness is, I never actually used that english word. Maybe someone knows a dutch word for it? Dictionary sais "hatefullness".

Ok so what i think about is a general feeling of frustration. Like when I am with mom in the car and she says things, like weird things to be funny. But often she then looks at me to see if I am laughing and if I am not she thinks I am upset.
BUT, now, by this repeating experience, I actually often (not always) start to feel abit annoyed/frustrated when she starts that behaviour. And in my head I think: I dont have to laugh just to please you, dont expect me to.
But that feeling of frustration is a reaction, being annoyed with that.
And then its not always so... its not when I do crazy myself because then I do crazy, and then its not that I am faking a smile to please her...

Is this also spitefullness?

theres a saying

my mother said this to me as a child.. or maybe i imagined it...

he would cut off his nose to spite his face

so my translation is someone whose angry .. perhaps bitter

revengeful... wants everything their way... i l look into this


although is tht something a mother says to their child.. maybe it came from a different source and it was imagined itwas from my mother.. i forgive myself for allowing myself to be wound up

STOP THINKING!
a coworker I work with is going through this atm this is the senario


Ann - a simple example of spitefulness:

A man is married his wife cheats on him he reacts he gets so angry and pissed off and 'apparently' "sad" because 'apparently' she took love away from him she took his illusion of stability his "perfect picture" of what life is all about - HE NO LONGER CONTROLS HER - he does not control himself

He wants to find a way to 'get her back' so she can feel the 'apparent' pain, anger and sadness he is 'feeling' he seeks a way for REVENGE - so he breaks her car windows and writes WHORE on her car in red spray paint' - who is the whore?

The only one that the man is spiting is himSELF - in reality he has defined himself as the 'owner' of his wife - seperate - in a relationship and he used her as a way to hide from himself in the first place and he gave his power away to the IDEA of love to the mind- in this act of spite he really fuicks himself he is really angry at himself no his 'wife at all

He still does not allow himself to see that he must love self - love is not a choice - The spite comes back to him a (timeloop) in the form of another relationship and he does the same fucking cycle over again and experiences himself as loss - never seeing or realising himself never wanting to face what he really is and has become.

If she were to get angry at him or upset she would be giving her power away to him in the moment of participation in thoughts feelings and emotions - she may feel like she gave a part of herself away because of the self compromise she allowed in giving into the anger and reacting.

Just about all beings have done this or do this and do not see that in actuality we fuick only ourselves and we will have to deal with the consequence one and equal.