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Dimensions - “Let Me S-P-E-L-L this O-U-T”, says the Ant to the Giant

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:07:10 +0100

01 March 2010

By: Dimensions

“Let Me S-P-E-L-L this O-U-T”, says the Ant to the Giant

Let’s S-P-E-L-L this O-U-T – dispelling the Spell ‘Possessive-Reactions’ of Mind - manifesting, when one accept and allow oneself to indulge within Thinking – the realm of illusion and delusion, and not take into consideration this physical-reality and oneself within-It, within the current ‘Laws’ the Physical exist and the current ‘Laws’ of the World-System we exist within, both of which – at the Moment, we’re in a sense ‘dependent-upon’ for our continued existence in Reality as it-Is.

‘Taking into Consideration’ – does not Mean: ‘Accept and Let Be’. ‘Taking into Consideration’ means: Not blindly ignoring/disregarding the Fact that we’re in a sense ‘Limited’ from a Physical-Perspective, within the Physical-Laws this Reality function and the current Operation within which the World-System Function; i.e. – the Money-System.

We’re in a Reality of ‘Survival’ = nothing we can do about it at this Stage, in this Immediate Moment. And because of this, to continue existing within this Reality – we have to, for a ‘Moment’ – live-Within and adhere-To these ‘Laws’, from the perspective of physically functioning in this Reality. Until we have the directive-principle to make a definitive, actual, substantial physical-change that stand eternally = not only in relation to ourselves as beings/humans, but all parts/manifestations/expression within, as and of existence.

However, we’re not accepting and allowing ourselves to ACCEPT such a continued existence of and as ourselves within Survival and Limitation.

Now – “...not accepting and allowing ourselves to ACCEPT such an continued existence of and as ourselves within Survival and Limitation” does not mean, rebuke/fight/rebel/resist against what is here as this Reality = you stand no-Chance within your current-Existence of understanding what Existence in its entirety comprises of, and what and who and how all and everything from the smallest to the greatest is involved in brining-about/manifesting/creating this Reality as-Is.

Therefore – (to put it quite frankly and plainly) = Don’t be deliberately Stupid, from the perspective of trying-to / attempting-to ‘prove something to yourself / to the world / to your Mind / to the system / to the physical’ through self-compromise, i.e. – quitting your job to apparently ‘face yourself’. You’ll prove nothing, but realising, upon what you already Know = that you’re fucked.

Let’s look at this Point within a Practical Context, utilizing the analogy of “The Giant and The Ant”, within the principle of ‘practical oneness and equality’.

There’s no-Way the Ant stand any-‘Chance’ against the Giant, from the Perspective of attempting-to / trying-to ‘change the Giant Itself’, within how the Giant Physically Exist in-Form, or through the Ant ‘throwing a tantrum’ against the Giant, through attempting-to / trying-to ‘fight-it’.
This would be ‘stupidity’, because the Ant is an Ant – the Giant, a Giant = this is their current Physical-Manifested existence in-which they exist, and as which they exist in terms of the relationship between the Two.
The Ant will prove Nothing through trying-to / attempting-to ‘face itself’, through deliberately placing itself in unnecessary Danger, through standing in-front of the Giant – the Giant still sees the Ant, as just an Ant – not as an Equal, and thus = will not Hesitate to Stand on the Ant, or completely disregard the Ant’s existence.
The Ant is not taking into consideration the current-Existence of the Giant, within ‘who the Giant is’ towards Himself and those/that which exist within his environment, such as the Ant – even though the Ant-itself, may live/understand the principle of equality and oneness = the Giant does not yet, therefore – the Solution is, the Ant must be an Example, through finding a way in which to assist and support the Giant to realise what it (the Ant) has Realised – herein, the Giant will see/realise, equal to and one with what the Ant has realised/seen – and within that, their relationship with each-other will change, and regard/consider each-other equally.

So, for example – the Ant realise that the Giant’s ‘view-point’ towards the Ant, exist within seeing the Ant, as just an Ant – nothing ‘more’, nothing ‘less’. And because the Giant, sees itself as just a Giant – ‘bigger’ than the Ant – it ‘believes itself’ to be ‘more than’ the Ant, and thus gives it ‘power / dominion’ over/of that which it perceives to be ‘smaller’.
Thus – the current relationship between the Giant and the Ant, exist within relation to ‘physical-size’ and the ‘acceptability’ of what the Ant and Giant believes themselves to be, within the context of ‘just being an Ant’ and ‘just being a Giant’.

So the Ant realises an interesting-thing, through looking-at this Point through the eyes of the Giant: Why is the Giant seeing the Ant (and thus all Ants) – as just Ants, nothing more, nothing less?

The Ant realises that, it’s because All Ants are accepting themselves as just Ants, which shows within the way they’re living/existing within this World – just being Ants, going-about their ‘Ant-Functions and Doings’ – day in and day out = just being Ants. Never questioning/considering ‘what they’re doing and why, and who they are within what they’re doing’ – they’ve been ‘born into an Ant-existence’ and accepted-themselves and what they do and how, as it being ‘all there is to their own-existence’.

The Ant, then – takes into consideration, that the Giant, Physically – is ‘MASSIVE’, and

1. that trying to stand in the face of the Giant, to fight-it / bring it down to ‘Notice’ the Ant’s existence / take the Ant’s existence into consideration = is impossible, due to the physical-manifested existence of the Giant in relation to ‘size’ – the Ant realise, that he’ll place-Himself into and as definite imminent danger, based on the common-sensical fact of their varying difference in physical-size.
2. that trying to have the Giant ‘hear-it’, through standing alone in the face of the Giant, through trying to communicate-it – is, at this stage, impossible, because the Giant will not Hear the Ant, because the Giant-itself does not yet understand/realise even the existence of the Ant within the point of equality to even consider communicating with-it

Within taking these two common-sensical facts into consideration – not from the perspective of ‘accepting’ the ‘Law of Physicality’ as ‘self-limitation, and ‘accepting’ that – because the Giant does not yet understand/see/realise the point of equality that - ‘the Ant has to give-up, and can’t do anything about the situation’.
The Facts, are merely ‘common-sensical’, from the perspective of consideration – because the Ant realise, this is the current-manifested physical-existence and relationship he (the Ant and all Ants) have with the Giant.

So – within deducing the existence of his physical-reality, the existence of the Giant and their relationship towards each-other, common-sensically = the Ant realises, that – the Giant doesn’t NOTICE the Ant, therefore – will not hesitate walking-over / stepping-on the Ant. So – the Ant realise the first-step to being able to get to the point of communication with the Giant – is being SEEN, being NOTICED – so that the Giant starts taking Notice of the existence of the Ant, to get the Giant’s ATTENTION.

Within-this – the Ant note, within his previous realisations, that – the Giant’s relationship is not to/towards this one Ant alone – it’s towards ALL Ants, so – if this one Ant, can get ALL Ants, to stand With-Him, equal and one – they can Face the Giant together, and assist and support the Giant within the principle of equality and oneness, to start taking into consideration the existence of the Ant, as equal to and as Him – then, his experience/relationship to the Ant, as all Ants = will change.

But – the Ant realise, that – he’s the only Ant that understands the principle of equality and oneness, that realised that he’s ‘more than just an Ant’ within ‘who he is’, and thus – his first ‘objective’, to getting all-Ants to stand with-Him, equal and one – is to assist and support the Ants, in realising/understanding/seeing what he has realised/understood and seen.

Now, understand – that – the fact that the Ant has realised/seen/understood the point of equality and oneness, does not mean

1. the Ant ‘physically changed’ – in form, he’s still as an Ant.
2. the Ant stopped applying his physical-actions and doings that Ants do, such as gathering food and building homes – it’s practical physical actions to support him in this World.
What has changed is WHO HE IS, within WHAT HE IS and HOW HE’S DOING-IT, meaning – he’s no-more just accepting-himself as just an Ant, just doing what he’s doing because he’s just an Ant – his experience within what he is and what he’s doing ‘changed’, because he realised that – he’s not just doing it because he’s just an Ant – he’s doing it for-Himself, and all-others that are existing with-Him, and within his – his whole experience of himself and his life has changed. Not the Physical-Actions / Physical-Manifestation = but WHO HE IS WITHIN-IT.

So the Ant sets course to All other-Ants as-Him – to assist and support-Them equal-to and one-with how he’s assisted and supported himself, within realising/understanding/seeing the point of equality and oneness.
The Ant becomes a walking-example to all other-Ants – showing them through action, sharing with them his experience of himself, his insights – while his walking with all the other Ants, doing the necessary ‘Ant-doings’ of building homes and gathering Food. Doing the same-things, in terms of the requirement to exist in this physical-reality – but showing-them, that they’re ‘more than what they believe themselves to be’ within the context of WHO THEY ARE within-Themselves. It’s not about stopping/changing what you’re doing in terms of physical-practicality to exist in this physical-reality in terms of gathering food and building homes – it’s about WHO YOU ARE within what you do, and your ‘relationship’ with all-those that you’re doing it WITH.

So – it takes some ‘time’ for the Ant to assist and support the other-Ants to realise/see/understand and live equal to and one with him, through being a talking, living-example – with them, as them, but soon – more and more start to see – with his words and actions together, and start to walk with-him, within-which they’re experience of themselves and each-other started changing = still continuing doing their necessary physical practical functions in this reality, still remaining physically as ants – but their experience of themselves within who they are and towards each other, changed – as they stood within the principle of equality and oneness within themselves and towards each-other, supporting themselves and each-other equally.

Now the Ant starts communicating the Point of the Giant – the one-Thing in their Reality, which they usually feared, and ‘danced around’ – making sure their always ‘out of his way’, to ensure he doesn’t
walk on-Them.

So the Ant presents a Solution:
That ALL Ants stand-together, before the Giant – to get him to NOTICE and SEE them, so that they can get his ATTENTION, so that they can SHOW him what they’ve realised, so that they can exist TOGETHER-with the Giant in this Reality – and no more fear the consequence of death, pain or injury – for-Themselves and Ants still to come.

And so the Ants stand-together, equal as one – before the Giant, millions of Ants, as they stand before the Giant.
The Giant Stops – NOTICES the ANTS, Bends-Down and for the First-Time SEES the Ants – whereby the Ants start communicating with the Giant, their current problem with-Him not taking their existence with him in this reality into consideration, and shows him the consequences it’s creating.

The Giant realises/sees the Ants ‘problem’ – realises, he’s with these ants in this existence, and that they’re actually beings, communicating with-him, able to communicate – they may be small in size, but they’re exactly as him – in this Reality.

With this – the Giant and the Ants come to the following solution:
The Giant will make himself a Path upon which he will walk – he’ll take note of where the ants have built their homes, and will from this moment forth – be aware of where he’s walking , and where the Ants are walking.
And so – the Ants and the Giant continued existing in their Reality, together – without fear, but within a equal and one Agreement of and as Support and Consideration, and started enjoying each-others company and equal and one support, within communication and action as what and how they live within who they are, towards themselves and others within their existence.

This Story of the Ant(s) and Giant is ‘equal to’ the ‘Problem’ we face as individual human-beings (the Ant(s)) in relation to, for example – the World-System, that currently function within the automated existence of the Money-System and the manifested-consequence it’s creating such as starvation, poverty, crime, war etc. (The Giant and the Consequences the Giant manifested in-Reality for the Ants).

The ‘Problem’ is not this Physical-Reality, being in Physical-Form, the ‘Problem’ is not the World-System in-Itself, is not the Money-System in-Itself – the World-System and Money-System is not Systems that function by-Itself alone = it’s DRIVEN by HUMAN-BEINGS.

So – trying-to ‘fight the Whole World-System / Money-System’ by-yourself – is Impossible. Because:
1. In this – you’re implying that it’s the World-/Money-System in-Itself that’s the ‘problem’, when it’s Not.
2. Trying-to Change the System – is not the Solution, the System exist as it does due to the starting-point of that which is manifesting/creating and continuing the existence of the System as it-is, which is the Human-Being.
It’s All driven as it is and the direction it’s going, and the consequences it’s manifested/manifesting – because of the Human-Drivers within the context of how they’re existing/participating within this world within WHO THEY ARE, of which there are Billions.

The ‘problem’ is/exist within WHO WE ARE, as our starting-point of participation within this Reality.

Thus, as the Ant realised –

1. it cannot face this Giant alone, that the Giant is not only affecting him, but all other Ants, equal to and one-with him.
Exactly as human-beings cannot face this World-/Money-System alone, that is not only affecting the individual, but all of Humanity.

2. That the Giant is the ‘way he is’ towards Ants, because of how the Ants are existing within the acceptance of ‘who they are’.
That the World-/Money-System exist the way it does, as it does and the consequences its manifesting, because of who humans are accepting and allowing themselves to be within ‘who they are’.

3. That – to Stop the Giant, is not going to help ‘fighting-it’ / ‘bringing it down’ or through the Ant deliberately placing-itself within Harms’ way.
As we can’t Stop the World-System/Money-System through ‘fighting-it’ / ‘bringing it down’ or through placing ourselves within unnecessary positions within/towards the World-System / Money-System, which manifest self-compromise within-Reality. Such as wanting to ‘quit one’s job to stop participating in the World-/Money-System’ – Again here, the problem is based on the System, not realising the Billions of Humans that is the source/cause that’s driving-It, and that – quitting one’s job to prove a point / make a statement – is self-interest, herein – you’re only considering yourself, not realising the problem is not the System, but ALL those driving-it / existing within-it, as WHO THEY ARE, towards themselves and all-others.
One Ant, as one Being will not make a difference – just as the Ant realised, within himself alone doing something about-it, is impossible – because, it’s not just about him, himself = ALL must STAND TOGETHER, as its ALL EQUALLY AS ONE, that is manifesting the existence of the World-/Money-System as it-Is.
As it was ALL the Ants, together, equally as one that was manifesting the Giant’s experience/relationship towards-Them, within them accepting and allowing themselves to be JUST ANTS, walking around the Giant in Fear – instead of facing him Together, to bring-forth a Solution for-Themselves Individually and All other Ants and All Ants still to Come.
Exactly as – we as Humanity must stand-Together, to bring-forth a solution – that consider not only ourselves individually – but all humans here, and still to come – so that we can exist within a reality of support, equally and no more within fear and consequence.

Thus, we’ve got the Solution, in terms of Equal, Practical Support for All of Humanity as an Equal Money-System – just as the Ant had his solution towards the Giant, in terms of assisting and supporting the Giant to consider/exist-with all Ants equally.

However, as the Ant realised – as all those in Process must realise = we must stand together as Humanity, within ‘who we are’ within the Principle of equality and oneness, wherein we can manifest a reality wherein we all can exist together, with each-other with an equal and one support-base, such as an equal money-system = wherein all are equally considered, and exist as one within this Reality we share.

This does not mean, we’ll physically change – or that, what is required to be done to continue existing in this reality will change, such as producing food and shelter, however, what will change is who we are within what we do and the experience of ourselves within, and with those that exist in this reality with-us.
We’ll no more do what we do, practically – such as producing food, building shelter, taking care of the environment and each-other in relation to physical basic needs/requirements within just considering ourselves within self-interest = but realise, that – no matter what we do, physically, practically to exist/function in this physical-world = we’re doing-it not only ourselves, but all-others that exist within this-Existence.

So – the ‘essence’ of this ‘Story’ is for those in Process to consider the following:

We’re currently in this PHYSICAL-REALITY, existing within a World-System, dependent on the current Money-System – nothing we can do about the System in-itself at the Moment, it’s how we’ve manifested the existence of ourselves within this World, upon which our current ‘survival’ in this Reality is ‘dependent’.
What we can stop and change, is ‘WHO WE ARE’, that’s been the ‘source/cause’ of the creation of this reality as we experience-it and exist within-it as our LIVED PARTICIPATION in reality within the starting-point ‘relationship’ towards ourselves all-Others.
Stopping and changing ‘who we are’, ‘facing who we are’ – is an INTERNEL PROCESS OF SELF-INTROSPECTION – changing who you are within through facing yourself within – transform what you live and how you live. This is the KEY to stopping how we’re existing in this World at the Moment.

Therefore, for the Moment – we’re going to have to continue existing within the World-System/Money-System as it is, because –again, THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE SYSTEM, it’s who we are as human-beings, within how we LIVE.
Until – we get Human-Beings to WAKE-UP and realise the World is bigger than just-Themselves, that what happens in this World not only affect-Themselves, but ALL OF HUMANITY EQUALLY, and that we can Stop existing within this Reality as we are now – through standing together, and coming to a solution that take into consideration ALL OF HUMNAITY EQUALLY, as ONE.

So – exactly as with the Ant = you start with YOURSELF first, within WHO YOU ARE and how you LIVE as you participate in this world with other human-beings, within the current world-/money-system in this Physical-Reality.
You continue doing what you’re doing, taking care of yourself practically in this reality to provide yourself with Food and Shelter – but what will start changing is WHO YOU ARE in your Words and how you Live.
Then you walk as an Example – BECOME NOTICED AND SEEN, as a living-example, as you share yourself, your experiences, your realisations as you lived/walk in participation within this reality, exactly as the Ant did.

In this – beings will start asking Questions, considering what is being said, start changing who they are, how they live = this doesn’t mean you stop functioning practically in this reality with regards to money and a job = it simply starts changing your and everyone-else’s experience within ‘who they are’ towards themselves and each-other, within the principle of equality and oneness. And, so – as more and more stand-together, with each-other equally, as one – we can start implementing solutions, that consider all equally, as one.

So, SELF FIRST, become a walking example within WHO YOU ARE, which is done through self-forgiveness, writing – to realise self-honesty, to within the realisation of self-honesty within, start living self-honesty within the principle of equality and oneness, within what you’ll accept and allow within-yourself and your world and what not.

Be Seen and Noticed – SHARE YOURSELF, YOUR PROCESS – as/while you’re assisting and supporting yourself within your process to stop the Mind, within amalgamating yourself with and as the physical and all-else that exist, here through the Tools of self-forgiveness, self-honesty, writing, self-corrective action. Assist and support others as you’re assisting and supporting yourself – so that we can get Humanity, ourselves – to stand, live and be equal and one in fact, and so transform our experience within this Reality within ‘who we are’, and so be able to exist Together in this Physical-Reality – without Fear, but equal and one support.

Interviews from the Farm 71: Illusionists use Love with Great Effect

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:04:57 +0100

28 February 2010

By: Bernard Poolman

Okay so - your ‘Conscious Mind’ is your ‘Management of Participation’ in your ‘Immediate’ ‘Moment-to-Moment’ Reality that is ‘Interacting’ ‘at all-times’ with your ‘Subconscious’ and the ‘Unconscious’. ‘Subconscious’ is your ‘Personality’-Mind –that means ‘All’ the ‘Influences’ that ‘Formed’-you as a ‘Being’ –your ‘Culture’ your ‘Language’, your ‘Family’, your all the ‘People’ you’ve known, your ‘Education’, your –all the things you are ‘Interacting’-with in some-way on a day-to-day basis.

Your ‘Unconscious’-Mind is the ‘World System’ –that means, the ‘Greater Reality’ that is ‘Managing’ the ‘Interaction’-of Everyone’s ‘Existence’. Because of the way the ‘Greater Reality’ ‘Exist’, your ‘Conscious-Mind’ is ‘subject’-to your ‘Subconscious’, and your ‘Subconscious’ is ‘subject’-to your ‘Unconscious’. So whenever you are ‘Interacting’ within the ‘Reality’ at a ‘Level’which will ‘Disturb’ the ‘Unconscious-Mind’, it’ll ‘send’-you a ‘Message’ of ‘Fear’. That was for instance all Programmed’-into Variations-of ‘Religion’ as an Example – the ‘Religion’-Point that was ‘Utilized’ was for instance the ‘Crucifixion’, and ‘God’ as a ‘Similar’ or ‘Equal’-to the ‘Unconscious-Mind’which is the ‘World System’ so-that, you see the ‘World System’ as something ‘too-Big’ to ‘Change’ and whenever you ‘take-it-on’ it’ll give you a ‘Fear-Message’ that: ‘you are ‘too-Small’ to Do-Anything about-it’, and therefore you will Not-‘Do’ Anything about-it.

In your ‘Reality’ in terms-of your ‘Subconscious’, you know that will be ‘Changing’ according-to your ‘Particular’ ‘Points’-of call-it ‘Evolution’. You decide that you had ‘Enough’ of ‘your Life’, you’re going-to for instance ‘Stop your Relationships’ and you’re gonna ‘Change your World’, just ‘Change your Life’ you’re gonna go in a ‘New Relationship’, then your ‘Subconscious’-Relationships will be ‘Re-Aligned’ and, some people will ‘Remain’ in your Life, some will ‘Change’- You will ‘Change your Behaviour’, You’ll suddenly become a more ‘Open’-Person or a more ‘Secluded’-Person or you’ll become more ‘Party’-like or whatever ‘Point’ you-‘Decide’ you now ‘Want’-to ‘Experience’-‘more’, and you will ‘Change’ your ‘Immediate’-‘Environment’ with-which you are going to ‘Interact’ with your ‘Conscious-Mind’ and then, you call that ‘Your Choice’ that you’ve ‘Exercised’ and that you’re ‘using your ‘Free Will’, and you’re now ‘Willing-Yourself’ to ‘Adjust’ your ‘Reality’.

In ‘that’-case you, for instance, will Never ‘Adjust’ Your ‘Unconscious Mind’ because your Unconscious Mind’ is your ‘Accepted’ ‘World-Reality’, but you’ll ‘Adjust’ your ‘Subconscious-Mind’.
So ‘Structural-Resonance Alignment’ is to-get your ‘Conscious Mind’, your ‘Unconscious’ and your ‘Subconscious-Mind’ ‘Aligned’ to a ‘Point’ where you-can ‘See’ that you-have ‘Sufficient’ ‘Will’, ‘Power’ and ‘Ability’ to ‘Actually’-‘Change’ the ‘Unconscious Mind’ –which is the ‘World System’ - into ‘something’ that ‘Support’ Everyone-‘Equally’, so that it is No-‘Longer’ a ‘System of Fear’ as it is Currently ‘Existing’-As –which means the ‘Identification’ of ‘All’ ‘Unconscious-Systems’ which is ‘Deliberately’ ‘Utilized’-to ‘Limit’-you within a ‘State-of Fear’ to Not ‘Take’-on the ‘Greater Reality’, and therefore ‘Accepting’ all-kinds of ‘forms’-of ‘Abuse’ from ‘Starvation’-to ‘Crime’-to… ‘Abuse’, to-‘War’, to ‘Pornography’, to ‘Child-Rape’, to ‘High-jacking’, to… Every-‘Possible’-‘Crime’ that ‘Exist’ at the ‘World-Level’ –

You must ‘Understand’ that Obviously that… there are ‘Beings’ in-‘Reality’ that is ‘Humans’ that are ‘Placing’-themselves - or were-‘Placed’ ‘Specifically’, dependent-on the‘Particular’-Situation - at ‘Points’ where they’re ‘Managing’ either Your ‘Subconscious-Reality’ or Your ‘Unconscious-Reality’. From their Perspective, they’re ‘Entering’ Virtually-like a ‘System’, ‘The System’- and they ‘Act’ on ‘one way’ as a ‘Person’ –which is with the ‘Conscious-Mind’- at another-level they ‘Act’-as a ‘System’ as somebody managing either a ‘Smaller’-Reality or a ‘Greater’-Reality and they Make the Decisions ‘Accordingly’ –

Obviously from their Perspective, they have Exactly the Same-‘Fears’ you-have in terms-of the ‘Greater Reality’ and therefore they ‘make-sure’ that the ‘Greater Reality’, the ‘Rules’ are ‘Imposed’ to ‘keep’ Everyone ‘Controlled’ within the ‘World-System’ –they don’t even Understand ‘Completely’, ‘Exactly’ what it is they’re doing because, all of-this is ‘Happening’ at a level-of ‘Resonance’ that they can’t see anyway, they’re simply just ‘Interacting’ within their ‘Belief’-System of ‘How’-it ‘Operates’ and ‘How’-it ‘Should’-‘Operate’ and they do-that from the Perspective-of ‘Fear’- and their Perspective of ‘Belief’, and ‘Belief’ is Always based-in ‘Fear’- Does that all make-sense?

Esteni: Yeah

Bernard: So that’s ‘Simplistically’ the, ‘Conscious’, ‘Unconscious’ and ‘Subconscious’ and ‘How’-it ‘Relates’-to ‘Reality’ and ‘How’ One ‘Interacts’ with-it and then within ‘Structural Resonance Alignment’, we’re now Slowly ‘taking’ all of-those ‘Points’ and we’re ‘bringing’-it ‘All-together’, so that One Eventually ‘handles’ both the ‘Subconscious ‘ and the ‘Unconscious’ In a ‘Conscious’-way that means, in ‘Full-Awareness’ that it is No-‘Longer’ ‘Consciousness’.

‘Consciousness’ in itself is the ‘Manifestation’ of the ‘Unconscious-Mind’ as a ‘System’ that ‘Operates’ by-Itself. The ‘Attempt’-to, for instance ‘Change’-that by just ‘Inserting’-‘Love’ ‘into-it’ is in its Very- ‘Essence’ –if one look-at the ‘Simple’-Mathematics of-it – ‘Impossible’, and will ‘Cause’ much-more ‘Harm’ to Many more ‘Beings’, because the ‘System’ in itself is Not-‘Adjusted’, it’s Simply becoming… taken to ‘another- level’ of ‘Blindness’ and, where one ‘Subjugate’ and ‘Limit’-yourself to a ‘Point’ where-You ‘Accept’ the ‘World-System’ as it-Is and you Wait for a ‘Better World’ or a ‘Better System’ ‘After-Death’ – You Do ‘In-Fact’ then ‘Nothing’ about Changing ‘That which you have Accepted as the ‘Reason’ for your Fear’.

And in-‘Spite’-of ‘Presenting’ ‘Love’ to Everything, you are still ‘In-Fear’ and you are just Refusing to See-it, because you’re ‘Unwilling’ to-Take the ‘Responsibility’ or-the ‘Risk’ as you perceive-it to ‘Actually’ ‘Change’ what you are ‘Seeing’ is ‘Happening’, because you ‘See’-Yourself as ‘too-Small’ to-Have ‘Any’- ‘Effect’.

Now Obviously whenever a ‘Being’ is ‘Presenting’-themselves as ‘too-Small’ to-Have ‘Any’-‘Effect’, and they also ‘Present’-themselves without the Common Sense to-‘See’ what is Really ‘going-on’ within the ‘Conscious’, ‘Subconscious’ and the ‘Unconscious’ , or even ‘Attempt’-to see what is ‘going-on’ - from Desteni’s Perspective they are ‘Irrelevant’ and they are ‘Immediately’ ‘moved’ out-of ‘Process’ to a … to be ‘Recycled’. If they in the ‘Future’ at some-stage ‘Do’-‘Realize’, it’s Very-‘Simplistic’: they ‘Automatically’ are ‘back’-in the ‘Process’-with the few-‘Points’ where they have to ‘Prove’ their ‘Self-Honesty’, but I mean then ‘Self-Honesty’ is ‘Proven’ in terms-of their ‘Action’ they ‘take’.

Then the… that’s In-‘Essence’ the ‘Simplicity’ of ‘How’-it ‘Operates’.

Now what is Fascinating Obviously is that within the ‘Unconscious’, the ‘Subconscious’ and the ‘Conscious’, the ‘Being’ Currently-‘Exist’ Only as ‘Observer’ therefore, they only ‘Participate’ in what they ‘Observe’ and therefore ‘Nothing they Do’ is ‘Actually’ Ever-‘Real’, yet they are ‘Trapped’ in-that ‘Illusion’, and it just ‘Perpetuates’-through the ‘Participation’ in the ‘Illusion’ –yet, it is ‘Real’ in-‘Experience’ because, You ‘Make-it Real’ through your ‘Participation’ –yet, the Moment you ‘Stop’ your ‘Participation’ within-that ‘Illusion’ = the ‘Illusion’ ‘drops’.

This has been Explained in Many-Different ‘ways’ yet, ‘Beings’ will-Not ‘Give-up’ their ‘Participation’ in the ‘Illusion’ –I mean, Jesus said-it, Lao-Tzu, Osho, you-name-it - they All said ‘Stop! – ‘Drop the ‘Illusion’, but ‘Explaining’ Exactly ‘How’ that would ‘Operate’ has been a Very ‘Difficult’-thing yet, look-at the ‘Simplicity’ of-it.

You are ‘Participating’ in your ‘Observation’, and therefore you make your ‘Observation’ ‘Real’ which is the ‘Illusion’ –then you ‘Continue’-to ‘Participate’ in the ‘Illusion’ and therefore it seems to-be a ‘Real-Experience’ while it’s In-‘Fact’ Not-‘Real’.

If You would ‘Stop’ and Dare-yourself to look-at ‘What you’ve been ‘doing’’ and also, look-at those ‘around’-you what ‘they’re’-doing, you’ll Notice the ‘Illusion’-with ‘Great-Ease’.

Now, ‘Ego’ is where One take the ‘Observation’, base-your ‘Design’ of-Yourself as ‘Conscious’ - as the ‘Conscious-Mind’as ‘Consciousness’ ‘On’-that ‘Observation’, and you ‘Defend’-it as ‘Real’ because, you ‘Fear’ to-‘Lose’ what you’re ‘Participating’-in because, your ‘Observation’= you’ll ‘Always’ ‘Make the Rules’ to ‘fit’ ‘You’, to ‘make’-‘You’ ‘the Winner’ –so therefore it is a ‘Principle of Competition’.
In your ‘Observation’ you’re Always ‘Observing’ things from the ‘Point’ where ‘You Will Win’ and ‘You are Right’, therefore all of-that is your ‘Ego’, and then you ‘Participate’ in-‘that’ and therefore your ‘Experience’ seems-to-be ‘Real’. And you ‘Believe’ the Moment somebody walks-‘away’ from-you and ‘Refuse’-to ‘Participate’ in your ‘Observation’ that you have ‘Won’ –which is Not-‘True’, you didn’t –they’ve just ‘Seen’ through-you and told-you to ‘Fuck-off’ - but you can’t-even ‘See’-‘that’ because you’re in ‘Illusion’.

So, ‘Humanity’ is… Exists as ‘Illusionists’ seeing ‘Who’ can ‘Deceive’ the Other ‘More-Effectively’- that’s why we have a Totally ‘Corrupt’-Society- and ‘Everybody’ is ‘Participating’ in-it and they ‘Use’ Fascinating-ways – especially if you look-at ‘Consumerism’ you’ll see where it ‘Manifest’ ‘Best’ is in ‘Love’, and you look-at ‘Sex’: the word ‘Love’- look-at ‘Religion: the word ‘Love’ –‘Love’, ‘Love’, ‘Love’, ‘Love is the ‘Ultimate Deception’ because it is an ‘Observation’ which is then ‘Sold’ –that means it’s like a ‘form’-of ‘Possession’ where you get ‘Somebody’ to ‘Sell their Soul to you’ and then you, they become ‘Your ‘Sole’ Reason for Living’: which you call ‘Love’, because you have Complete-‘Possession’ over-them and you can ‘suck’ their ‘Energy’-dry for ‘the Rest of their ‘Life’’ –you call-it ‘Marriage’.

It’s ‘Night-Mare-riage’ the ‘Greatest Nightmare’ that Exist.
And then you-get ‘Children’ to make-sure the ‘Nightmare’-‘Continue’ for ‘the Rest of your Life’.
Such a ‘Wonderful’-thing: ‘Love’

A ‘Beautiful’ ‘Poison’ that slowly ‘drips’ and ‘Infatuates’ and ‘Releases’ a ‘Energetic’-‘Toxin’ that ‘Blinds’-one for ‘Anything’ that is ‘Real’ –and all you ‘look’-for then is ‘What you want-to ‘Observe’’ which will ‘Confirm’ to-you that ‘Love is Real’ –and there you are ‘Trapped’-in Your ‘Illusion’ because you’re only ‘Seeing’ what you ‘Want’-to and you’re ‘Creating’ what you ‘Want’-to ‘See’ –and therefore, you’re in this ‘Infinite’-‘Time-loop’ where You ‘Only’-‘See’ What you ‘Want’-to ‘See’ – and you’re ‘Creating’-it at the Same-‘Time’, isn’t it ‘Wonderful’ to be so ‘Powerful’?

Sunette & Bernard - The Celestial System

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:01:38 +0100

03 February 2010

Sunette

Sunette: We’re calling it the ‘Celestial System’?

Bernard: Ya.

Sunette: Alright - the ‘Celestial System’. This was a ‘System Manifestation’ in Certain Specific Human Beings that were Incarnated into this World, within a Specific ‘Life Design’.

The ‘Celestial System’ worked as follows: it had its ‘Four Primary Points’, which acted as ‘Pillar’ Formations. Now, this whole System Manifestation was inserted or situated within the stomach area with Four Primary ‘Pillars’ that were made out-of ‘White Crystal’ and that ‘Resonated’ ‘White-Light’.

The Formations in which these ‘Pillars’ were, were ‘Angelic’ in nature, with little ‘Mini-Crystals’ surrounding the ‘Angelic Figure’ - also made out-of-this ‘Light-Resonating White Crystal’.

In the Center of these ‘Four Points’ , there was this ‘White-Light Crystal-ball’, with also many, various ... which was made-up out of many little ‘Crystal’ Formations.

The Four Main ‘Pillars’ were linked into the ‘Sexual Centers’ and then to the ‘Mind Consciousness System ‘Oneness’-Connection’ which was situated just below the chest, within and just above the Solar Plexus.

Now what this System ‘Functioned’-as was to ‘Activate’ a ‘Leader’ –which was one Particular, Specific Human Being into an ‘Exaltation’ of Experiencing themselves as being a ‘Celestial Being’, being ‘Christed’, being ‘Sent by a God’ or ‘Gods’ –the various specific Points of, specifically ‘Religious’ in nature, ‘Spiritual’ in nature, ‘New Age’, etc. – any of those fields - and once the ‘Leader’ Point, the ‘Leader Being’ that was inserted with this Particular ‘System Manifestation’ would ‘Activate’, many other Human Beings would be ‘Activated’ along-‘with’ this Being because, the ‘Followers’ would also have a Particular ‘Crystal’ Manifested within their Solar Plexus, that was linked-into the ‘Primary Human Being’ with this ‘Primary System’. As I mentioned in the beginning, the ‘Primary Human Being’ with this ‘System Manifestation’ – all the ‘Crystal’ Formations of-which the ‘System’ was made-up of, each Individual, Singular ‘Crystal’ was linked-to a Singular Human Being = another Human Being.

So this whole System would ‘Activate’ within One ‘Primary Human Being’= the ‘Leader’, and then within many other Human Beings as the ‘Follower’. And so, in-essence a ‘New Religion’ would form, a ‘Spiritual Path’ would form, a ‘New Age Reform’ would manifest, ehm and..

Bernard: A Reformation

Sunette: Ya, and when this ‘White-Light Resonance’ as what this ‘Crystal’ Manifestation consist-of and exist-as would ‘Activate’, it would ‘Vibrate’ the Physical to a Specific ‘Frequency’, wherein the being would Feel and Experience themselves as being ‘Exalted’ even from the ‘Physical’ Experience Perspective, which would make-them ‘believe’ that they have been ‘God-Sent.’

Bernard: ‘Christed’.

Sunette: Or ‘Christed’.

Bernard: They were ‘Celestial’ – this was then ‘charged’ through Sex, Masturbation and Meditation – till it reached its appropriate ‘charge’.
The ‘Four Pillars’ was linked-to the ‘Four Directions’ of the Earth.

Sunette: The ‘Four Corners in the World’.

Bernard: Ya the ‘Four Corners of the World’, which is then how it ‘fits’ into the ‘Design’ of the ‘Consciousness System’.

Sunette: I mean they would... even later on the ‘Design’ became more intricate where there would be for example beings that would Emerge at the same time and which would, which is... in the past perceived or believed to be as ‘Channelling’, but these were actually ‘Pre-programmed Entities’ that were also Pre-Programmed ‘Into’ the System - so when the System ‘Activate’, these beings would ‘Activate’ along ‘with’-it, and there’d actually be Sections within the Human Being’s Mind that would fill with the Knowledge and the Information of the ‘Program’ of the ‘Entity’. The being would believe they’d be speaking to an ‘Actual Being from the Other-side’, when actually they were speaking-to a ‘Entity Programmed’ to Correlate with this Particular ‘System Manifestation’.

Dimensions - Example of Practical, Physical Self-Corrective Application

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:59:16 +0100

25 February 2010

By: Dimensions

A Point to consider / become ‘aware’-of within one’s Process / walking one’s Process:

Initially, within the starting of one’s Walking (within the Practical context, as you participate in your Physical Reality/World as Environment and other-People) – out of the Mind, into the Physical, ‘most’-of your ‘attention/focus’ will firstly be within stopping Thoughts, and stopping Reactions – which is the ‘Conscious-Mind’-aspect of ‘how’ self is currently existing.

Because our lives, up to now – have consisted of Only functioning through and within the realm of Mind as Thoughts and Reactions (Energy of Emotions and Feelings), wherein our ‘awareness’ (that which we’re ‘conscious’-of) has been limited to only ‘ourselves within the Mind’, the consequence that manifested because of that, is/has-been ‘Physical-Neglect/-Inconsideration’, wherein we’ve been completely ‘unaware’ of Ourselves within and as the Physical, and our Actual Physical Movements within situations/events and/or with other-People.

So, ‘Initially’ – one’s ‘focus and attention’ will be within stopping thoughts and reactions within Moments we become ‘conscious’ of-Them, meaning – Moments within-which we ‘see’ that we’re accepting and allowing ourselves to participate in Thoughts and Reactions within the walking-through our daily-life.

Together with Self-Forgiveness and the Practical, Actual Stopping of Thoughts and Reactions...
(Note: the application of stopping thoughts and reactions, through/by ‘seeing’-Them in-Moments, become more ‘specific’ through the application of self-forgiveness and writing through which self ‘see’ these aspects of mind-participation, become ‘aware’ of them, and within this ‘awareness’ – manifest the support for-Self to be able to stop-them, and no-more participate within-them, as one walk/experience one’s Reality/World)
... you’ll become more ‘aware’ of your Physical-Experience of Self, in relation to ‘Body-Movements and Pain’ – within and during this initial-Process. Your Physical-Experience of which you were previously completely unaware, and/or deliberately ignored, and/or suppressed, and/or didn’t realise the ‘context’ of your physical-experience in relation to yourself. Meaning – how you, within ‘who you are’ in a Moment, influence / have an effect on your actual physical body, and your experience within-It.

With this, have a look at the following:
Understand that Thoughts, are ‘holographic resonant-imprints’ within your Conscious-Mind, of and as that which you’re ‘resonantly living’ as the ‘lived-definition’ of ‘who you are’, as defined through the Mind Consciousness System – that is ‘physically lived’ ( and can be physically seen) within your ‘Physical-Body Behaviour’ as ‘Physical Movements/Experiences’.

Because you’re not/haven’t been ‘Physically Aware’ of-Yourself, you won’t initially ‘notice’ your Physical-Behaviour / Movements in relation to the Thoughts and Reactions you’re having = this will come as you walk your Process of Self-Forgiveness and Stopping Thoughts and Reactions Practically, wherein you’ll start seeing = how you’re actually ‘Physically Living’ / ‘Behaving’ / ‘Moving’ in relation to the Thoughts/Reactions you’re having.
Wherein you’ll realise that you’ll have to ‘Practically change’ your ‘Physical-Movement’ / ‘Behaviour’ in a Moment, as an Practical Act of Self-Movement – to stop/change/transform ‘who you are’ in a Moment, from Mind-Definition that you’ve always lived within the Mind, that reflected within your Physical-Movement = to Self-Movement as Self-Expression.

An Example:

(How this Point opened-Up with Katie during Discussion with her Resonance):

Within particular-specific Situation(s) with Cameron – Katie ‘experienced’ a Mind-Race of Thoughts going through-her, wherein the ‘string or line’ of Thoughts would be exactly the same/similar based-on the particular-specific situation that would play-out with Cameron.
She applied-Herself in relation to the Mind-Race of Thoughts, to the Point wherein the Thoughts would no-more occur within those particular-specific Situations with Cameron, but -what Katie was not-‘Aware’ of – was her ‘Physical-Experienced’-Reaction, in relation to the Mind-Reaction she was experiencing in those-Moments.
Thus – she had ‘worked-through’ the ‘Mind-Aspect’ of her Reaction within those particular-specific situations, but not yet with the ‘Physical-Aspect’ of her Reaction.
So – even though the Thoughts no-More occurred = her ‘Physical-Experience’ in such Moments still-Remained, wherein her ‘Physical Positioning / Body-Movement’ will still be the same, as the ‘Physical-Actuality’ of what she accepted and allowed herself to ‘live’ in those Moments, which the Thoughts ‘reflected’.

For Example – she was ‘aware’ of the Thoughts she was participating-In, but not that the ‘Physical-Manifestation’ of those-Thoughts, as what she’s accepting and allowing herself to ‘live/be’ in that Moment in the Physical-itself – manifested a Physical-Contraction and Retreat, wherein, for example – she’d ‘slump-down’ in the chair, and slowly, but surely ‘physically distance’ herself from Cameron – through, for example – not participating within-him physically.

Therefore, she’s worked with the ‘Reflection’ as Thoughts of what she’d accepted and allowed herself to live as ‘who she is’ in a Moment within actual Physical-Experience/living – but she hadn’t applied the actual Physical self-correction as self-movement, within actually physically changing her physical-participation in that Moment.

In-This, she could she, that – yes, she stopped the Thoughts, but she hadn’t applied the actual, practical physical self-movement in that Moment, and thus – still, in essence – remained within the exact-same ‘reactive-mode’ as she did-before = she hadn’t yet ‘changed herself’, she only ‘stopped’ the reflection of herself, that revealed within her Thoughts.
From/Within ‘seeing’-This – she started moving herself Physically, from the perspective of – actually standing-up from the chair, walking to Cameron and participating with-him, rather than ‘contracting into herself, slumping physically in the chair and retreating from experiencing the Moment with-Him, as she did-Before.

This is what we practically mean with: “Applying Self-Forgiveness, Stopping Thoughts and Reaction and SELF-CORRECTIVE ACTION, changing yourself Practically, in the Physical as you walk within Participation in your Reality”. Wherein – you stop the Thoughts, and change you within your physical-participation in-Reality = Changing from both within and without equal and one.

And, so – you ‘move yourself physically’ into and as self-change, and you’ll find – within moving yourself physically, you’ll in that Moment ‘change/transform the experience of you’ – because you went-from = Mind-Experience that ‘affected you physically in a certain-way/manner in relation to behaviour’ – to self-expression, through self-movement in the Physical, wherein you actually participate with and as what is Here. From Mind-Participation as 'Observer' of a Moment - to Participant in a Moment within Reality.

Demo - Understanding Realization and Self-Realization

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:56:22 +0100

20 January 2010

Demo

This Point has been ‘discussed / mentioned’ – before, however – I have found this to be an Important ‘Flag-Point’ / ‘Reminder’ for-Myself within walking my Process.

So – with regards to ‘Realisations’:
‘Realisations’ is when you have a ‘Quantum-Insight’, pertaining to Self, Personally – into/of a Particular Experience / Knowledge that pertains directly to Self – wherein Self ‘suddenly’ See a Point and within that Seeing – Immediately Understand ‘who self is’ in relation to that Experience/Knowledge.

Now – such Realisation Points is but a ‘Window of Opportunity’ to Self-Realisation – within-which Self has the Opportunity, to – as the ‘Quantum-Insight’ as the Moment, immediately direct/assert Self to ‘change’ in Actual Living Application from that Moment forth. Wherein, through living the Realisation-Point, in changing-Self in Actual-Living = the Realisation become an Actual Self-Realisation.

Be ‘aware’ of the fact, that – the Realisation in-Itself will not ‘alone’ / ‘by-itself’ ‘pull self through to actual self-change’ from that Moment forth – Self must be the ‘Living-Factor’ / ‘Asset’ from that Moment forth, to make the decision to actually change and then actually Do-It in Living-Application.
If/when this is not Done – the ‘Window of Opportunity’ will ‘Pass’ and you’ll ‘Forget’ about the Realisation Point, because then it only became a Point that you ‘Understood’ within Knowledge = because you didn’t take that Realised ‘Knowledge’ into Practical-Application.
Then – you’ll ‘Time-Loop’ – eventually get to the same Realisation Point, only in a different way/manner as another ‘Window of Opportunity’, and so – in essence, only prolong your own Process.

Thus, another-Point – indicating, that: Each one is Self-Responsible for the ‘Length, Duration and Experience of-Themselves’ within this-Existence.

See:
The ‘misconception’ often exist, that: When one has a ‘Realisation’, that – that ‘Realisation’ means “This is It” / “It’s Done” / “I got It, I’m Changed” – but, if you Self-Honestly observe your Actual Living/Participation in this World – you’ll Notice you’ve only changed/shifted in Knowledge = you haven’t actually in Living-Fact – Changed your Living-Beingness of ‘who you are’ = you still ‘live the same’; you’re only Thinking differently.

So, therefore – be ‘aware’ of this-Point, that you ensure that you don’t only change in ‘Thinking’ as ‘Shifting in Knowledge within your Mind’, but that you Actually change the Way you Live in and as the Physical, actually Change you in Practical-Application as you Live in this World = this is Actual Self-Change. Change that is Actually Seen within the Way you Live as you.

Demo.

Interviews from the Farm 70: The Hidden Face of Sexuality

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:33:50 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman

02 January 2010

So this idea of Face-World was born from a single moment where I was walking towards Cameron sitting on a chair, whose hair was being trimmed and he was obviously having fun and
the face that was presented was peculiar. So I asked a few questions about this Face. What is this Face all about? What is this hair really presenting?

What is fascinating about hair, is that it presents sexuality. You can virtually call hair, ‘the lines of the rod’ with which you will ‘hook’ the being and their ‘hook’ is the Face. You find the right Face, then you ‘throw out the lines’, you ‘hook’ the beings and then you can put your ‘rod’ into ‘the cave of wonders’.

So -that is what hair represent, that‘s why ‘down under’ in the areas of your ‘real genes’ – the ‘genes’ that ‘tell it all’ – which is the genitals – there you have hair as well.

A suggestion is in Face-world to also shave the hair off your ‘hidden face’, the one you ‘hide’ between your legs -the place where the male ‘hold the eggs’ and the female ‘release the eggs’ and
the legs are the ‘pillars’ that keep that Face ready to ‘kiss’ the great ‘nuclear reaction’ called orgasm -which is the whole purpose of the organism,

within which is ‘riding a being’ that is hiding behind a Face. You’re not willing to look at this face that is presented and is using hair, hair, hair – it is all about Love!

Don’t you see? You were Programmed from the sixties already to end up today in saying:
‘Namaste! I recognise the ‘God’ in you as the ‘God’ in me’ - But there is no ‘God’ in me or you! Because if that was so, we would’ve been ‘God’ already
You are a liar, Namaste! You’re lying because you are not Living as God. You have a ‘False-Face’, while inside you, the ‘real you’ has got a ‘different story’ in your thoughts.

And your thoughts are the’ real god ‘– that’s the ‘real you’ – a liar and a cheater and a deceiver.
If you are Honest you would ‘synchronise’ your thoughts with your Face, so that you never may present a ‘False-Face’ to anyone.

If you can do that = that is an ‘Act of God’.
An ‘Act of Self-Honesty’ is an ‘Act of God’.
Then, you are on your way to reclaim your Godhood.

Resonance Interview: Overweight making my Relationship Hell - Katie

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:07:55 +0100

Katie's Resonance Discussion

17-Feb-10

Resonance: Alright, this is Katie’s Resonances and the topic or point of discussion is in relation to weight. Okay, the weight that we’re talking about, or discussing is specifically in relation to physical body weight. What we’re gonna be starting with is having a look at the word itself, weight, in relation to the resonant manifestation within which the word exist as physical body weight.

Because, if you have a look, in terms of weight there can be various definitions of weight, wherein each definition of weight carry a specific resonance within the word itself.

At the moment we’re going to look at the definition of weight in relation to physical body weight wherein each individual letter of the word has a particular specific symbolic manifestation, numerical manifestation - wherein it is integrated and manifested into the Mind Consciousness System platform within the unconscious mind, and because you the being is integrated into the Mind Consciousness System, you personalize that word for yourself. Okay - what that means is you define yourself personally in relation to the word weight and then form yourself according to each individual letter of the word in relation to the symbolic Resonance it exist as, does that make sense so far?

K: Yeah.

R: I can, for example explain to you in a more visual perspective. So if we have a look at the word Weight, now the resonant expression the word Weight carry at the moment is: physical body weight.

Okay, so the whole word in it’s entirety resonate the definition or scope thereof that we’re currently investigating as physical body weight.

Okay. Now each individual letter of the word has a specific symbolism-expression. That symbolism-expression is specific in relation to the current definition as the resonant expression of the word which is in relation to physical body weight, okay.

So, now what happens is for example within and as you program yourself into this reality, this world through the Mind Consciousness System, what you do is you’d personalize this word, the symbolism and the resonance thereof - according to and as your self definition. So, what we will be doing is, we’re gonna be looking at each individual letter, what each individual letter represents symbolically in relation to its current resonant manifestation as a definition thereof, as physical body weight.

K: Okay.

R: Okay, then also we’re going to look at the polarity opposite of the word within which we’re going to literally, almost reflect the word in its opposite manifestation, because remember the mind exist in polarity.

K: Okay.

R: So, you have your obvious polarity which is the obvious word you see with the W-E-I-G-H-T. The hidden polarity is the opposite reflection of the word - wherein from the opposite reflection we’re looking at digitals - the programming of the word in the Mind Consciousness System. And now you’ve programmed yourself in relation to the programming of the digitals that exist in words.

K: Okay.

R: That’s like the, that’s the Mind Consciousness System designed code that’s hidden within the word. The word itself is the Mind Consciousness System’s living aspect of the word itself, okay.

K: Okay.

R: So just some perspective on how we’re going to be approaching these discussions.

Alright so, if we have a look at the word Weight, individual letters W-E-I-G-H-T, okay. So if you have a look at the’ W', the W represent Female, feminine. Cause if you have a look the formation of the W is in the form of breasts, two breasts next to each other. The ‘e’ represents Energy.

The ‘i’ represent Personality, the “I” of Consciousness, when you refer to yourself : “I am this/that”, “I experience this/that”, that’s the “I” of Consciousness, the “who you are” in relation to how you’ve programmed yourself, in how you experience yourself currently.

The ‘g’ is Ego.

The ‘h’, if you have a look at the manifestation of H it’s, the point right there it’s like in a chair formation. But the point here at the bottom is where you’re literally pulling your ass to the ground and you’re just sitting, it’s literally Ass-sitting, okay.

And the ‘t’ represents Choice.

Okay, so what we’re going to be doing is we’re gonna have a look at how you have individually programmed yourself symbolically into each individual letter, okay?

K: Okay.

R: That’s manifested your current experience in relation to weight in its entirety, meaning -why is it that you’re for example physically picking up weight, feeling uncomfortable in your physical body. What is in essence behind it all? The access to that, finding out the source, is within the word itself. Within how you have defined yourself in relation to symbolism within each individual letter, okay?

K: Okay.

R: That’s Part 1 that we’re gonna be doing. Part 2, that we’re gonna be looking at, is the opposite, the polarity point.

K: Yeah, it’s interesting, I didn’t understand that at first but now that you’ve got it written down there it makes sense.

R: Okay, so Part 1 will be the obvious polarity point we’ll be looking at, so we can call this Part 1.
Part 2 is the hidden polarity point, the opposite, the reflection of the word itself that contain the Mind Consciousness System’s encoding of the word itself. And then also how you’ve defined yourself symbolically in relation to each individual reflective opposite letter.

K: Okay.

Resonance (R): Part 2 is the Hidden Polarity-point, the opposite, the reflection of the word itself that contain the Mind Consciousness System’s Encoding of the word itself. And then also how you’ve defined yourself symbolically in relation to each individual reflective opposite letter, okay.

Katie (K): Okay.

R: So here we go.

Reflecting ‘w' you get an ‘m’, the letter ‘m’ which represent the Male, the whole chest area, protruding chest you know males in the olden days long time ago with their ‘pride’, the ‘male stance’, the very protruding chest. So, there you have the male manifestation within the letter ‘m’.

K: Okay.

R: The ‘e’ reflected over get the number 6, the number 6 is a System Code representing Future-Programming.

If you have a look, all Numericals - you’re working with Numericals here at the moment - Numericals is System Code Programming, specifically at the letter 6 you’re looking at Future Programming because, you have the whole form of, for example, a woman being pregnant. There is the stomach and the whole leaning toward the future, okay.

The ‘i’ reflective you get the, an exclamation mark (!), which in System Code/ System Programming represent ‘Intensity’ and or ‘Warning’. Okay?

The ‘g’ reflected over you get an opposite 6, this is System Code representing ‘Past’, also an ‘impregnating the past’, meaning holding-on to the past.

Now if you interestingly have a look here just on the 6’s that’s the normal six and the opposite 6, the normal 6 representing ‘Future Programming’, the opposite 6 representing ‘Past Programming’, both are holding onto, constantly. So also, in essence bring back to weight, carrying weight, Okay?

Then we have the ‘h’ reflected over, we get a vertical line with a cup formation at the top of the line, alright? This is the ‘I’ Mind Manifestation of Self in the Physical. In other words, this would be the… the ‘Programming Symbol’ for a human being in essence within this world, because you have the ‘Now’ which is here the vertical line, and they’re stuck in the now within the Mind that’s represented by the cup because you have your past, future, now, you, you’re here in the now. T

he ‘Now’ is when you’re existing within the past, present, and future within the Mind, wherein your past constantly create your future, so you’re always stuck within the present, the ‘Now’, so this is the ‘Now’ Symbol Code, basically.

Then we’ve got the ‘t’ reflected over, you’ve got the letter ‘f'. Here is your ‘crossroads’ ‘Crucifixion of Self’ in the Now in which you exist within the Mind Consciousness System - if you have a look, it’s like a cross and then the top line of the vertical line cusp over to form a ‘upside-down cup’, alright?

Now what this is representing is again, you have your past and your future, constantly existing within your past and your future, you’re existing here ‘crucifying’ yourself because: you’re always ‘stuck’ within the same point which is the cross - because your past is constantly creating your future, and once the future comes, your past that you experienced in that future creates your next future point over and over and over and you cycle in the same point, you’re literally ‘crucifying yourself’ because you’re cycling in the exact same experiences in lifetimes over and over and over and over again.

So it’s ‘crucifying yourself’ on the cross of the System so to speak. Alright?

K: Okay.

R: that’s Part 2.

And now all that I’ve explained is the Basic Symbolism of the words and then the Encodings or Numerical Programming of the word within the Mind Consciousness System.

I know it must sound a bit over-the-top at the moment in terms of it not being yet tangibly understanding, however as we go through each individual point: you’ll get it.

K: Okay.

R: So even in then bring it into a Practical Perspective, we’re bringing it into the Practical Perspective point because we’re now going to discuss How You Created and Programmed yourself into this word, alright? In relation to both the Symbolism and Numerical Encoding, okay? So, let’s begin, that was merely introduction.

We’re starting with Part 1, which is the Symbolic Resonance of each individual letter within the word ‘weight’, okay?

So we’ll start with ‘w', which represents the Female or Feminine aspect.

Okay - now we’re gonna have a look at How you have defined-you within being a Female. Alright -so what do you experience females to be?

K: I would say…

R: The first word that comes up.

K: I was gonna say ‘sexual object’ was the first word that came up and then the word ‘mothering’ like ‘mother’.

R: Sexual Object, there’s a bit of anger there… and mother. Alright, there’s also ‘submissive’.

K: Yeah, I was gonna say ‘weak’ but that’s like the same.

R: ‘Submissive’ or ‘Weak’… Yeah, but yours is more, the ‘weakness’ interestingly enough comes more in the ‘male’ point for you - ‘Submission’ is more here in your definition within the Female.

K: Okay.

R: Which is quite interesting, so we’ll have a look at that with the ‘male’ point. Ok, submissive, sexual object, mother… strenuous or hard work, meaning - meaning it’s strenuous and hard work for you to be a Female, in your experience.

K: Yeah.

R: ‘Pleasure Slave’ - wherein you experience yourself as a ‘slave’ to for example a ‘male’ when you feel you are the one that has to ‘pleasure’ to keep the male satisfied for example in your experience of being a Female in relation to a Male.

K: Another thing that comes up for me is like that, I don’t know a word for it, but that point of where as the woman gets older they kind of ‘fall apart’, like it’s like the whole body starts to just.. you know, when you see older women it’s like their whole, they’ve been so ‘run through the mill’ their whole life that it’s like their whole body starts to sag and just fall and gain weight.

R: So, ‘Ageing’. ‘Consequential Ageing’, we shall call it that. Ok, interesting – ‘Acceptance’, ‘Tolerance’, ‘Abuse-Tolerance’- meaning wherein you see Females as having-to or ‘must’ tolerate abuse, that’s their place and position.

K: Yeah.

R: Okay, so we’ve got ‘Sexual object’, ‘Mother’, ‘Submissive’, ‘Strenuous/Hard work’, ‘Pleasure slave’, ‘Consequential ageing’… there the ‘Consequential Ageing’ is more a Fear point in relation to Female. ‘Mother’… ‘Sexual Object’ is anger point in terms of your experience toward it a female being a ‘Sexual object’ but this is definition currently in your experience in relation to Female. ‘Mother’… Mother is more like a, ‘the job’ of a Female… Mother, being a mother, the definition that’s currently existing within-you in relation to female - are you with me so far?

K: yeah.

R: I’m not moving too fast.

K: No.

R: Okay, ‘Strenuous/Hard Work’: this is in relation to the ‘Consequential Ageing’ as well meaning wherein the ‘Strenuous hard working’ Female inevitably gets ‘run down’ throughout her life and ends up literally almost ‘melting to the ground’.

K: Another point that comes up is like that, well what I’ve experienced within being a Female is the point of like ‘needing to protect yourself’- I’m not… it just comes up when I…

R: Protect yourself from what starting point though? What point comes up wherein you experience that you require and need to ‘Protect yourself’?

K: Just like protect myself from the world, from other people, from all the things that could happen like needing to be reserved, like needing to...

R: ‘Reserved’… so reservation - you’re looking at Vulnerability.

K: Yeah.

R: Reservation or Vulnerability - meaning wherein you won’t allow yourself to be Vulnerable then you, from there you get to the point of ‘Protection’ which is more of a Consequence of the original point.

K: Yeah.

R: Now have a look at where and from where have you gotten that idea.

K: I mean the first thing that’s coming up is just being in school and being like when I was very young and being considered as like an outcast from the boys from playing.

R: Okay…

K: Like the girls have to separate themselves but, I don’t really see how that fits in that was just the first thing that came up.

R: It’s more ‘Parental Influence’ if you have a look at words your parents spoke.

K: About being a Female? Yeah, like Protecting myself from people coming to the door or “don’t answer the phone” or, yeah, yeah definitely.

R: Okay, but instead of it being a point of Common Sense in relation to considering the current state of the world, it’s now become a point of Fear wherein you hide.

See, that’s quite interesting in terms of the parents teaching through Fear not understanding the Consequences that has within their children’s life later on, instead of explaining to them in a Equal manner: ‘listen, this is what’s going on in the world, this is the state of the world, this is why you can’t do this, this is why you can’t do that’ - most parents don’t explain to their children in sitting down communicating, telling them ‘why’ they’re saying that or why they’re saying no and things like that, they just simply say ‘No - don’t do that’ and try and Control the children in that manner.

K: Or they promote fear like the point of: my parents would say to me ‘don’t open the door because someone could come in here and hurt you’ – you know, it wasn’t like a point of ‘explaining’ anything it’s just ‘this person out there is coming out to hurt you’, so whenever someone would come to the door, I would always hide, my sister and I would like hide in the house and then like look through windows to see, see if we knew that person, or…

R: Fascinating…

R: Okay, so we’ve got let’s say have a look here also interesting – ‘Male’s Slave’ – these are your Primary Definition points of Female within your experience that you’re currently living, that is Directly related-to your current experience within ‘weight’ but only at the moment looking at the letter ‘w' – okay?

So, let’s start with point number one that you mentioned: ‘Sexual Object’, and with ‘Anger’: Okay, so why… it’s interesting that ‘Sexual Object’ would come up as the first point - it means it’s your most prominent kind of vexing experience of you within being a female, why?

K: Well, because you’re on, it’s like you’re on a, you’re in a Competition…

R: Okay…

K: where you’re being ‘objectified’ and compared to others, so in order to ‘be the best’ or whatever - and this started very young for me I can see - it was to…

R: ‘Stand out’.

K: Yeah. And like also belittle the other women around you - in even minor ways like to make yourself seem ‘the best’.

R: Are you speaking this now from inside yourself or your experience of males towards you?

K: I don’t necessarily see, I mean perhaps the males had an influence in that but I experience it as this was just something that I started doing like within my Secret-Mind, thinking about other females and belittling them in my mind so that I would at least feel as though I ‘stand out’ or convince myself to that point because I was… I thought that, that was the only way for myself to be, to have ‘Power’ or to be ‘Acceptable’.

R: Okay, now let’s have a look-at, there must be a Picture in your mind of a female.
Okay, now this Picture of the Female in your mind is the ‘God’ in your head in relation to ‘How I must be as a Female’, ok? Now this ‘God’ is speaking to you as this Picture through and within your mind manifesting you as this Personality of Competitiveness and Comparison, wherein you’re trying to shape form and manifest you as this woman, as this Picture within your mind, okay? So, ‘in your head’ explain to me the ‘Perfect Female’.

K: Thin.

R: Okay…

K: Blonde.

R: Long or short hair?

K: Long.

R: Ok, tall, short?

K: Tall.

R: Okay.

K: White, Perfect skin.

R: Perfect skin, is that soft skin or like…

K: Like ‘Flawless’.

R: Flawless okay - flawless skin, flawless almost like ‘silky’. K: Yeah, and like not like no blemishes, like just perfect.

R: Okay.

K: Like a long face.

R: Eye color?

K: Blue.

R: Okay.

K: Like teeth that are not big but not small you know just like a…

R: ‘Perfect’.

K: Yeah, ‘perfect teeth’ and ‘big lips’.

R: ‘Succulent’ lips,

Okay. K: Like ‘Athletic’.

R: Athletic build.

K: Like ‘average’ Breasts.

R: Okay, Nails Fingernails, long/short?

K: That’s not really…

R: Relevant, but manicured nails?

K: Yeah.

R: And, bum?

K: Average. R: Average which means nicely formed?

K: Yeah, like ‘athletic’, ‘tight’.

R: formed – there we go, ‘tight’, tight bum, okay.

K: ‘Thin legs’, like kind of wide hips though.

R: ‘Wider hips’.

K: Like wider.

R: Okay, so not completely, not ‘stick’-like.

K: No, not stick... yeah. R: Okay. Wider hips...

K: And kind of small feet, not really small, but smaller than mine.

R: Okay, that about describes your ‘Perfect Female’- ‘Woman’. Okay, so, now to look-at in which magazine did you see this woman? When were you, how old, you were quite young when you’d seen this.

K: Yeah.

R: Did you used to dress up in like princess dresses and stuff like that?

K: Definitely, Yeah.

R: Okay, so - as a child you dress up in ‘princess’ dresses and be the ‘perfect little girl’ and now you see your idol. For example, did you see her physically? Did you see her…

K: I would say it’s one of the Disney characters, I can’t remember her name… ‘Sleeping Beauty’.

R: Ah! ok, that you’ve transformed now almost into a Actual ‘Holographic Projection’ of a ‘Real’ Human Being that does not in essence exist in this absolute ‘Perfect’ manifestation except through Photoshop and surgery. Fascinating how it works.

K: Yeah.

R: Now this Picture, ‘Holographic Picture’ has been your Female/Feminine ‘God’ inside your head, okay? That you have a Symbiotic Relationship with - In other words, you through her - this Holographic Picture in your mind - Define Yourself in Comparison and then within that point here you, here is this Picture and now within this relationship you’re ‘comparing’ and ‘judging’ and ‘competing’- so to speak. Now you see for example, other women within your reality. Now this experience that’s existent will manifest within you, you’ll project in your outside world towards other females. Now remember, it’s really fascinating: whatever you experience in your outside world towards other people= it’s happening in real-time inside yourself.

K: Yeah.

R: So for example, whatever you’re experiencing towards other women, there is a ‘point’, a ‘manifestation’, another ‘being’, a ‘picture’, a ‘memory’ within your mind that you’re playing-out this same role. Make sense?

K: Yeah.

R: How that Operates, how that Works?

K: Yeah.

R: So, first thing of course is ‘Removing the Picture’ - that’s not real, at all. K: Right. R: In any way whatsoever.

So we’ve now discussed only the ‘Picture Point’ of this whole experience in relation-to the ‘Sexual Object’. Okay, so you as a child in ‘Sleeping Beauty’ experienced ‘desire’ when you watched ‘Sleeping Beauty’.

K: Yeah.

R: So ‘desire’ was your first, that point was your first Real Experience in relation to ‘desire’, wherein you linked ‘desire’ to the ‘Sleeping Beauty’ cartoon/animation/movie, okay?

Now, there was the Picture, the ‘Sleeping Beauty’ with the knight on a white horse coming to rescue the beautiful lady, kissing and all those things happening that brought up ‘desire’. Now, there you linked that whole, that relationship to ‘desire’.

Now what comes out is, as you grow up the cartoon animation starts going away and your focus starts shifting to Actual Reality, wherein you now seek that ‘desired experience’ with an actual boy within your world or your reality, okay? But, you’re not, it’s not that you’re seeking a ‘Relationship’, you’re seeking to ‘fulfill that desire’ to have that experience you had while watching the animation/cartoon ‘Sleeping Beauty’.

Then as you grew even more older, you transformed now you live more into reality - meaning your Holographics in your mind started changing because, as a child your world is still more ‘fantasy’ than ‘reality’ because you’re in a safe-secluded environment wherein you’re not yet Exposed to the world.

As you grow older and you’re more exposed to the world, everything starts becoming more Reality-based - then your Holographics in your mind starts changing from ‘Fantasy’ to ‘Reality’.

When that ‘shift’ starts happening, you Change that ‘Picture’ to a Physical Holographic Picture of an actual beautiful female and how you defined her to-be in your mind as we described it earlier, and the perfect male.

So the male you’re looking-for is like within ‘Sleeping Beauty’- and fascinatingly enough it looks very similar to Cameron, hey? The short brown hair, tall, dark, lean.

K: Yeah.

R: Strong build, and you dyed your hair blonde as well.

K: Yeah.

R: So you now manifested your ‘desire’ in reality from your experience as a child is linking your desire to an animation/cartoon, see how it’s played out?

K: Yeah.

R: How you created it.

K: Yeah.

R: Ok - so let’s again get back to your Holographic Imagery of this woman. Now what’s interesting is in animation/ in cartoons that children see or watch, the cartoon animations are also ‘Perfect’, you’ve got the female all ‘perfectly drawn’ or animated as you had described the ‘Perfect Female’ within your mind.

And from there, you created or manifested the ‘belief’ that ‘that is what a woman should and must be’, because that’s what you were ‘introduced’- to both within your education as a child so to speak through the movies that you’re watching and also then you’ve got your magazines, you’ve got your media and all those ‘flashing images’ of the perfect woman or feminine, that only compounded your Holographic Picture of and as the ‘Perfect Woman’, but there is no way that you can Physically Practically ‘compete’ with an Animation.

K: Right.

R: It’s Not Real, the ‘Physical’ is Real.

K: Yeah.

R: Okay, now understand that doesn’t take-out or remove the experiences that one has, because I mean it’s… in terms of the whole Female Manifested Picture that’s been presented, have a look, it’s always only a Picture in Picture-form - both within cinema, television, magazines - but look it’s Only Pictures. If you see them in ‘Actual Reality’ it’s a complete different Picture that you see, the Real Actual Physical.

Now these are merely words I’m sharing with you but, in terms of for yourself you have to come to that Realization, that it is Physically Impossible for me to Compete with a Picture.

K: Yeah.

R: Simply from the fact that the picture isn’t real and I’m here with me in my physical body, this is what I am and how I am now this is real. And in terms of realizing that point and making peace with yourself in who and what you are right here at this moment you’ve got a platform in terms of starting to actually have access to yourself as who you really are.

Why do I say that, because if all this still exists within you, the point of competition, comparison with other females constantly comparing yourself judging yourself, bringing up jealousy and god knows what, it creates a whole system inside you.

Then you have to walk a process, I mean you’ve gotta get rid of that system first, then you only get to a point of yourself meaning the actual you behind it all wherein you start reaching a point of acceptance, self-acceptance, actual real self-acceptance.

From there you start living the process of self-transformation where you live that realization in this reality; where there’s no more, excuse me, competition or comparison within yourself, because you’ve accepted you actually, really.

So you’ve lived your life since that point in terms of trying to manifest you as this woman.

You see the impossibility of it? How you’ll cycle over and over and over again trying to become this perfect woman because in essence that’s what you’re trying or attempting to do. Like almost taking, seeing if you can take parts of other women for yourself to assist and support yourself in your redesigning yourself as this woman.

And I can guarantee there’s many women out there, not all, has this female picture god in their head that’s constantly causing or manifesting that point of comparison.

K: So what you were saying though, was like if you’ve already built up this system of jealousy and competition, that this point has to be stopped first before you can get to deleting this original picture.

R: Oh you can delete it, use your muscle communication.

K: Okay, cause I hadn’t even… this wasn’t even in awareness.

R: No of course not.

K: Until we’ve discussed it right now, it’s very interesting.

R: And then you start seeing the points for yourself.

K: Yeah.

R: And you take it back to the original source, remember you designed your life when you were a child. Most of the stuff that you’re experiencing now, trace it back to childhood where and how you programmed it. That’s why we’re here talking to you so we can show you the points you can’t see. Like for example that you would never have considered your experience towards Sleeping Beauty for example manifested this experience of females at the moment.

So this female picture is in the way of you being equal with other females for example.

K: Yeah, definitely.

R: And also an equal with you within where you are within your physical body and which caused an inner fighting.

K: I mean I see that because there’s always a point where I’ll get dissatisfied with myself and then immediately think that I can change something about me, one of these points to be more like this. So I’ll try to think of ways to do that or like “what can I do, what can I possibly do right now to just you know, make myself more thin or dye my hair blonde or you know, something”. Yeah that’s very interesting.

R: Or you do your nails, or clothes or things like that - that would take you a step closer to being a perfect female.

K: Clothes is a big point, because its always like I go with the idea of buying particular clothes to make myself look a certain way that I have in my mind, and then it never plans out to be that.

R: Oh, you, you, you, you… you have an idea in your mind of how you would look like in those clothes, and then you go and buy it and try it on…

K: And then it’s like I convince myself that these clothes look good on me but they never satisfy this point.

R: Oh, okay.

K: But like you said, this points not real so how could it possibly satisfy that point. Very cool.

R: The point that you want to satisfy isn’t even real in the first place.

Resonance Interview: Weight - Women's Resonant Nightmare - Anna

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:57:16 +0100

Anna's Resonance Discussion

17 February 2010

Resonances: Alright. This is Anna’s Resonances, sitting here with Anna and today’s topic of discussion, is in relation to and with regards to ‘Weight’.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay, the weight we’re communicating about or discussing, is specifically ‘physical body-weight’ within the context of just ‘physical body-weight’ in itself, and also ‘picking up weight’ and the dynamics and points that’s involved within that whole experience within ‘physical body-weight’ and also ‘picking up weight’.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Okay, let’s start first with the word itself and having a look at
The Symbolism that is Existent within the word ‘Weight’ within the Resonance, in which the word ‘Weight’ Exist as ‘physical body-weight’, okay?

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Okay? So the Resonance of the word ‘Weight’, that we’re looking at, at the moment contains that of ‘physical weight’, okay?

Now – if we have a look: ‘Weight’ which is spelled W, E, I, G, H, T – okay?

So let’s first look at the ‘straight forward’ Symbolism of each letter:

We have the W (w) – alright?
Now, the W represents the Female – in relation to Symbolism. If you have a look at the word or letter W itself, it is representing the female in relation to the breasts, okay?
Formation of two breasts next to each other, exactly as it exist in the female human physical body, alright?

Then we’ve got the letter E (e) – which represents Energy, so symbolism for and of Energy.

Then we’ve got the letter I (i) – which is, the Symbolism representation thereof is: Personality. The ‘I of Consciousness’. When you refer to yourself as ‘I’. That ‘I’, that ‘Self’ that is defined within and of and as the Mind-Consciousness-System.

Okay, we’ve got the G (g), which is the Symbolism for and of Ego.

Anna: Okay...

Resonances: Okay.
H (h) – which is the Symbolism of sitting, basically literally in terms of the Symbolism of the letter itself: ‘Ass-sitting’. Okay.

Then we’ve got T (t), in terms of the Symbolic representation thereof, within and as the word ‘Weight’ – represents Choice.

Now understand, in terms of the Symbolic representation of the letters within the word ‘Weight’ specifically in relation to the Resonance in which the word ‘Weight’ exist as ‘physical body-weight’, okay?

Now, this is the one polarity-aspect of the word ‘Weight’.

Alright. Now, in terms of the ‘existent polarity-aspect’ that is the reflection of the word ‘Weight’, which exist... within the Human Physical Body, within the Mind-Consciousness-System, because the Mind-Consciousness-System is Manifested within Polarity. You’ve got your‘basic principle’; within for example ‘Male’ and ‘Female’ - yes the Female might be existent within a Female Human Physical Body, but yet there are still aspects and attributes of the Female, that is of ‘Male-essence’ – the Male maybe in a ‘male’ Physical Body, which defines him as a ‘Male’, yet there exist ‘Female’ aspects and attributes within the ‘Male’ as well. It’s just that, because the ‘Male-point’ is more dominant or the ‘Female-point’ is more dominant, the ‘Female’ within the Male will be suppressed and the ‘Male’ within the Female will be suppressed. Okay, so now the Polarity-Aspect within the word ‘Weight’ – we Manifest basic reflection of the word ‘Weight’.

Now, we’ve got the other point, which is:

The W transforms into an M (m) – okay. Which is the representation of: ‘Male’. Why? It’s within the ‘protruding’ chest-area, the usual men in the olden days, use to walk ‘proudly’ with their chests, quite ‘protruding outwards’ - ‘stamina’, ‘male stamina’. Okay, there you have that point in the male body.

We, the word or letter E (e), reflecting forms a 6, which is a System-Code. Numericals are System-Codes, that you...

Anna: Miracles!?

Resonances: Numericals.

Anna: Numericals...

Resonances: Numbers.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: ...are System-Codes within the Mind-Consciousness-System. Okay.

I (i) transforms into an exclamation mark (!), which within the Symbolism thereof, in relation to the word ‘Weight’, the Resonance we’re looking at, at the moment means ‘Intensity’ or ‘Warning’, okay?

Then we’ve got G (g), which transforms into a backwards 6, which is a System-Code, representing past. Okay? If you have a look at the ‘normal’ numerical 6, in terms of it’s Resonant Design, it manifests ‘future’ - Programming. 6 turned backwards represents ‘past Programming’. Okay.

Then we’ve got the H (h), which... almost transforms Directly into a.... backwards y. Here it forms a linear line, vertical line with a cup-formation right next to it, moving from left to right. You’ve got a vertical line with like a, cup right at the top. This is the ‘I’– Mind-Manifestation of Self in the Physical. Meaning the vertical line represents the ‘I’, ‘Self’ - how Self Stand. The cup represent the Mind, wherein ‘Self’ Exist. It’s the only ‘part’, ‘manifestation’ within which ‘Self’ Exist, as ‘Self’ always remain ‘Here’, but in the ‘Now’ of the Mind. Make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay, then we’ve got the T (t), which forms... the letter f. Now ‘f’ in terms of the Symbolic represented Manifestation of this, is the ‘Crucifixion of Self’, which is the linear vertical line and the horizontal line crossing each other, which is the Symbolism of Jesus Christ Crucifixion, and then with the vertical line, moving in an up-side-down cup, going up, down and then making a small turn, that is the... ‘Creation-Point’ from past to future, wherein your past create the future in… within that ‘creation of the past’, creating or manifesting the future, you’re stuck in the middle, within the ‘Crucifixion-Point’ of yourself, because you’re constantly existing within your own past and your own future, never Here, Equal and One – your past and your future determine ‘Who you are’ and, because of that, you’re in the ‘Crossroads’, between past and future. Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay. Now –
Now, with that information, in relation to the Symbolism, numerical Programming Design of the word ‘Weight’ in relation to ‘physical body-weight’ – let’s have a look at your personal experience within how you ‘personified’ the word ‘Weight’ as and within ‘Who you are’ within the Mind-Consciousness-System.

Okay .

Now – what we have discussed, or what has been discussed quite often, in terms of giving perspective of how Beings are actually Living out their parents’ Mind-Consciousness-Systems, their parents’ lives in essence, wherein the parents’ Mind-Consciousness-Systems are transferred into the child.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay.
Now, with children being born with the physical uncomfortability of ‘physical bodily weight’, with which you’re currently experiencing... if you experienced, you’ve been physically, in terms of your experience of ‘physical body-weight’ as you are – since you were a child.

Anna: You mean the ‘experience’ or actually been over-weight?

Resonances: Yeah, but I wouldn’t say – remember it’s not in terms of‘overweight’ or ‘underweight’, or…

Anna: Just ‘Weight’?

Resonances: Just ‘Weight’, yes.

Anna: Yeah, Well I... as a child when I see pictures of myself, I don’t see ‘Weight’, but I felt ‘Heavy’, like the feeling of being ‘Heavy’.

Resonances: ‘Heavy’ – there we go, okay that’s an important word.

Anna: Yeah, yeah.

Resonances: ‘Heavy’, alright – now with... and then from there on as you grew older and came of age, your physical form manifested as that ‘Heaviness’, basically. Is that so?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Okay - now in relation to that point – that ‘Heaviness’ that you experienced, that was the ‘excess’ ‘Manifested Emotional and Feeling ‘pockets’’ of your parents...

Anna: Okay...

Resonances... that downloaded into you through the Mind-Consciousness-System transfer into and as your Physical. Remember, in terms of the transfer from parents to children, the parents entire Mind-Consciousness-System-Design transfer into the children.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: That means that whatever Excess Manifested Emotions and Feelings that had not been dealt with, but had been suppressed, transfer into the child.

Anna: Only the suppressed?

Resonances: Everything.

Anna: Okay.
The Conscious Emotions and Feelings, which is the whole ‘platform-System-Manifestation’ of the Conscious Mind, in which they participated actively, would transfer, so everything that they participated within actively would transfer. Everything that they participated with ‘in-actively’, meaning that had an effect on them, but which they suppressed, would also transfer. Now, understand these or such Excess Emotions and Feelings, would Manifest as literal ‘Pockets’ inside the Human Physical Body, and these ‘Pockets’ would form a total ‘Network-Platform’ in the Human Physical Body – Okay?

So all the un-dealt with Emotions and Feelings and situations and experiences that your parents had through-out their life, would also transfer to you - It’s kind of like the Mind-Consciousness-System not being able to deal with or fathom those experiences, so now it’s kind of like transferring it to another new Mind-Consciousness-System to say: “You sort it out, I cant!”.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Does that make sense?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: So, all of that within your parents transferred into you and physically manifested into your Human Physical Body-Form liquidly, okay? So those excess suppressed emotions and feelings manifested a ‘pocket-network’ within their physical bodies, as a System transferred into your physical form within which your physical form manifested all those excess experiences/events/situations, which contain the Resonance of Energy.

Anna: Yeah...

Resonances: Okay?

So it transferred to you as Energy, wherein which you and thus why you experienced yourself as ‘Heavy’, I mean when you were a kid you, in essence were carrying your parents ‘burdens’, okay?

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: And then it is those ‘undealt-with’ events/experiences and situations that your parents had, that was in their physical, in their physical form as a System-network liquefied into your physical form, that shaped your physical form into the ‘Heaviness’ and as ‘Heaviness’ in physicality as what you experiences it right now.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: And it is those excess suppressed, in essence ‘unwanted’ experiences, that has been unconsciously forming/shaping/creating/manifesting your life in events and things like that – your whole life-experience.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: about why your physical in essence from when you were a child, manifested the experience of ‘Heaviness’ and thus the form of ‘Heaviness’.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay.

So that’s the platform, meaning the form that describes the form, the, the... in relation to the experience of the ‘Heaviness’, which is your parents burdens in manifested liquefied into your form, because it liquefied into your form, your form shaped according to the Heaviness and not according to you as a Being.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: That’s why, in terms of, in essence the physical forms that Beings have currently, within this World, is not the Real, true Physical Expression of the Beings Self. It is the form that were shaped according to ‘Who’ their parents were, and the amount of excess, suppressed emotions and feelings, the parents transferred as a System, inside the child and according to that amount of transfer, how the Physical would form, according to that ‘liquidfication’, wherein the form would merge with the ‘liquidfication’ of the emotions and feelings as the excessed suppressed events/situations/feelings/emotions and... you know, it’s a lot, okay?

So your form was in essence dependent on your parents and thus the form would shape according to the, the amount of ‘burdens’ of the parents, and therefore no Beings form in Reality is according to the Being, as ‘Who the Really Are’, or according to the Beings Resonance, it’s according to System transfer, the intensity of the Resonance of that System-transfer.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, so now we’ve explained the form and how the experience of ‘Heaviness’ manifest as an Actual Physical Heaviness.
Alright.

So the ‘form-situation’ in terms of the Beings physical form, shapes at birth, within how we have explained it just now.

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: Clear sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, now let’s look at how you have ‘personified’ yourself, in relation to the word ‘Weight’. What does that mean? How you have defined yourself as ‘who you are’ in relation to the word ‘Weight’, within how we have, in the beginning explained each individual letter, within it’s obvious polarity-point and then the hidden Polarity-point?

Anna: (points to the drawing) is this the hidden one?

Resonances: Yeah, the hidden one

Anna: The second one

Resonances: yeah, which is the projection. The opposite. Cause remember: The Mind works in opposites.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: So, when working with a Point, you have to work with the obvious Point and the hidden Points – the two Polarity Points to be sure you are Actually Diffusing the Total System, okay?
So – let’s start with the obvious Polarity-Point, which is the straight-forward word ‘Weight’ at each individual letter, as you see it:

Okay, let’s start with W = Female and Being in a Female Human Body. Okay. So if you now have a look at your Life-Experience Anna, you... because of the experiences you’ve had within your Life and within your home-situation, during your growing-up years, where you’re still dependent on your parents, in terms of education and a roof over your head, wherein that self-Independency of going into the System, is not yet manifested: A idea was created within you, of the female being ‘Weak’.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay... That you’re experience of femininity...

Anna: (Laughs)

Resonances: Why the laugh?

Anna: Cause it’s just, it’s so obvious, when you look at it... (laughs).

Resonances: Yeah, it’s not obvious though, when you’re living it.

Anna : No.

Resonances: But when you’re outside ‘the box’, as ‘the box’ so to speak, in terms of where we’re standing and we show it to you, you’ll be able to see it, cause then we’re showing you, as who you are outside ‘the box’, yet as ‘the box’, so you get a view of yourself that you hadn’t considered, yet is Here.

Okay. So ‘femininity’ : In terms of the world, femininity has been defined according to body shape, the clothes you wear, hair, accessories for hair, body accessories, what lotion, shampoo’s , mascaras, make-up. Hair dyes... but if you have a look at all those things: Put them together, plaster them on a Being, the Being kind of shapes themselves according to all those things, kind of fit themselves into a ‘profile’ they ‘paint’, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Then it becomes a System-Manifestation, when a Being manifest themselves as a System-Representation of the definition of ‘femininity’ according to what society has defined it as.
Alright. But in looking at femininity as an Expression, we’re looking at ‘Grace’, ‘Vulnerability’, ‘Intimacy’, ‘Gentleness’, alright?

But have a look: in terms of ... I’m speaking now, how you have put, in your Mind-Consciousness-System defined femininity, as that previous picture of society that I’ve painted for you, that’s existent. The Expression of Actual femininity , is Living these Words; at ‘Grace’, ‘Vulnerability’, ‘Intimacy’, ‘Gentleness’, however let’s look at ‘Grace’ for example. How have you defined ‘Grace’, in terms of the picture, the picturesque societal definition thereof? A long, tall, lean, well-build women that walks in high healed shoes, that are very thin, almost silky dress, with silk, with hair flowing down and that picture, you’ve defined as ‘Grace’, alright?

Anna: Hm.

Resonances: ‘Vulnerability’ –
‘Vulnerability’... this point is actually non-existent within you at the moment at all. You’ve completely locked Vulnerability away, because Vulnerability you’ve placed into Direct definition of ‘Weak’ – and manifested a Polarity for and of Vulnerability in relation to the, the definition you give Vulnerability is ‘Weak’ , you’ve locked yourself down – so now you’re on lock-down.

Anna: What I’ve experienced is that I... seeking, like in my lock-down or whatever, seeking my ‘Vulnerability’, through being weak and then it backfires or it... because that’s not what it is, or it...
Resonances: That’s how you’ve reasoned it within your Mind.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: In essence Vulnerability doesn’t exist inside you at all – meaning you wont even go there, in any way whatsoever, because if you Allow yourself to be Vulnerable, you Allow yourself to be ‘Weak’ and you’ll Fight yourself, your world, to ensure that you’re not Weak. You don’t want to be defined as a ‘Female’, in the feminine definition in which a ‘female’ is contained, in relation to the definition thereof, in society.

Vulnerability – you at the moment, have it as Abuse within yourself, memories...

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: there is memories of yourself as a child, in which you were Abused in Physical, Emotional events and experiences, because if, if you look at a child: a child is Vulnerable. What does Vulnerable mean? It means an Expression of ‘Here-ness’ that’s Open...

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Now there’s no fear. It’s an Unconditional ‘Here’ and would experience the Moment in it’s Completeness, but then while you were in those Moments of experience, Abuse would come in the way, which created Fear. That Fear created you to Now, be Conscious of your environment within the Starting-Point of Fear, wherein you would always Expect Abuse to come your way. From that Moment, Vulnerability became un-existent, cause you went into complete Self-Lockdown in relation to Expression in Vulnerability, because of the Fear – and within That, you were always in constant look-out to ensure that you’re ready for when Abuse comes your way. Therefore you defined Vulnerability as being ‘Weak’ - and since then, because you’ve built so much layers around that point of ensuring that you don’t become, or are Vulnerable, it’s become non-existent within your total Physical Expression-Design within yourself.

So, it’s like you’re always expecting the worst... to happen, and I mean, it’s a huge thing, this point, because now you can take it further into, you’ll not Allow yourself to just Enjoy yourself, just Relax, just ‘Be’, Accept yourself, your environment and Trust yourself to know that if a situation come, I Trust me to Direct it Effectively, in the Moment – but instead, you’re on constant look-out for Abuse, to protect yourself against Abuse... be prepared. And in that whole manifestation, you’ve created a Resonance of Fear, in your whole Physical Body and that Resonance of Fear, is Resonating and compounding, every time you think, there could be a point of Abuse coming your way, that this Resonance build another layer, and another layer and another layer and another layer, okay?
When those building of layers happen in context to this point `= pick up Weight.
Because you’re building...

Anna: That makes sense.

Resonances: ...You’re building a protective wear inside yourself. Okay? So now you have to look at, in terms of when you pick up more Weight, when you become more uncomfortable within your Physical Body, meaning where the experience of ‘Heaviness’ becomes more, within and without, you have to look at your world, and see why are you within a constant Resonant fear of Abuse?
Okay, you have to look at what thoughts are coming up? Is this specifically related to people, meaning where you wanna protect yourself from people, make sure... now, what I mean by Abuse is for example not wanting people to think bad of you. Not wanting people to have ideas, perceptions or beliefs of you – so what you do within that Fear, you’ll change yourself and your Physical behaviour, the way you live, the way you act towards them. In that you’re living that Resonant Fear in you, compounding it even more and then... pick up more Weight. Make sense?

So if you look at for example your relationship with Matti, your experience with Matti...
It’s okay, you can cry...

Anna: (Laughs)

Resonances: Your experience with Matti – that’s where you started picking up Weight.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances:... while you were in that relationship.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay – now at what stage, now you clearly have to look at: At what stage did you start changing in Physical behaviour and actions towards him and in your voice tonality, where it became more high pitched, where in you started becoming fearful of him... leaving you? Or being interested in someone else, rather than you? Was it thoughts that went on from the beginning?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Ah, Okay.

Anna: Even be... yeah

Resonances: Even before? You played the Relationship out in your head, before it started?

Anna: Yes. No not played it... No. Well, it’s almost like it’s not even, I mean, cause it’s the pattern I followed, so I was already on that track, with another boyfriend and then he comes and I’m just still on the track, basically. I mean, then I would leave the track when I don’t have a boyfriend, or would experience this differently and then I would do the same, as soon as I go into a relationship again.
Resonances: Meaning the Fear of them leaving you or leaving you for another woman?
Anna: The fear of Abuse, this whole thing, pick up Weight and then lose Weight, when I left the man yeah...

Resonances: Oh, so this happened many times before, every time you go into an agreement/relationship, you pick up Weight...

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: Okay – So you understand how you’re picking up Weight within a relationship at the moment, because you’re Resonantly Living and Compounding the Fear of Abuse, which in your eyes would be Self... the experience of Abuse, in relation to the experience of Abusing you from the perspective of: You’re going to experience sadness, regret, shame, feeling left out, feeling less than... I mean, all of those experiences.

Anna: Which I’m already doing to myself.

Resonances: Yes, but in essence you’re doing it to yourself, but see you’ve defined it according to the male, within which you are in relationship, to you. That they’ll be the cause for your experiencing Self-Judgment, inferiority, being less than, you know going into that whole Self-Pity cycle in essence.

Anna: Yeah, yeah.

Resonances: Okay...

So now you’ve gotta look at, from that perspective – from that perspective, you’ve gotta source the point of why you immediately go into Fear, when you go into a relationship, meaning why that point of Fear of Abuse comes up, wherein you Live that Fear over and over and over again and with that Fear Resonantly Existing within you, you’re picking up Weight.

Anna: Well, I experience it with all people. More with males and even more in relationships. So it’s not only there (in relationships) and I see specifically the point of these words in terms of ‘Graceful’, ‘Vulnerability’, ‘Intimacy’ and ‘Gentleness’, I’ve placed them in the relationship, like that is where they should exist or...

Resonances: No, what about you being them in Self-Expression?

Anna: Yes, what about that?

Resonances: Be careful of that point, in terms of wanting to construct your relationship or Agreement, by constructing a relationship and Agreement as a ‘thing’ that you’re ‘entering into’, that you have to ‘create’ – that’s relationship-talk. Agreement is two Beings, walking in Self-Honesty, Assisting and Supporting themselves individually and within that, Assisting and Supporting each other.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: That’s it. In that, you Walk, as Grace, as Vulnerability, as Intimacy, as Gentleness where it because Self-Expression.

And not try and shape/create or manifest something, as a Separate part, or a Separate thing or a Separate entity, because that Separate part, thing and entity, will control and determine Who you are, which is a problem... then it must Fall.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Because it wasn’t Real.

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: The Reality of an Agreement or experience, is dependent on the Participants, and ‘Who’ the Participants are, within ‘Who’ they are.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, so... let’s look at the dynamics of the point of Fear firstly: You experience Fear towards people in general

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Okay.
You experience Fear towards males, more than the people in general, I mean woman, okay?

Anna: Yes, yeah.

Resonances: Then you experience even more fear, when in a relationship.

Anna : yeah.

Resonances: Okay – so you’ve got your face 1 Fear, your face 2 Fear and your face 3 fear.
Face 1 Fear is towards women, face 2 Fear is towards males, face 3 Fear is towards and within relationships, okay.

So – let’s have a look at the first two in your ordinary world, not being in a relationship within anyone:

The Fear in relation to woman, you’re looking at your mother-construct, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: in relation to comparison and Self-Judgment.

Males: You’re looking at your father. But not in terms of prominently, it’s more unconsciously.

Anna: It must be, cause I’ve never known him.

Resonances: Yeah, no it’s unconsciously, yeah, it’s not... That’s why it’s not prominent, it’s more unconscious.

Anna: I also have an i..., I mean, I’ve been seeing this point, it’s very prominent in my experiences, but I have had difficulty seeing, where it comes from.

Resonances: Yeah – no it’s from your father, unconsciously.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Now, to identify that point because you’ve never known your father, is to write out the Fears, individually

Anna: Fear of males.

Resonances: mmm, Yeah detailed. I mean, you’ve gotta look at their physical forms. You’ve gotta look at the way they talk to you. You’ve gotta look at, but not... from them, you’ve gotta look at your experience within that, within when, you’ve gotta look at the experience of you, when a male come and talks to you, the experience of you when a male stands in a certain way, the experience of you when a males voice is in a certain tonality. In that, you’ll start seeing your fathers unconscious Design, by getting out those attributes of all those individual males, you’ll be able to in essence see, the personality of and as your father, that you never knew – from a Mind-Consciousness-System perspective.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Okay, yeah.

Resonances: so that you can from there, stop all those points. Okay? Then you’ve got your Fear, your 3. Face Fear – that is now your face 1 Fear and your face 2 Fear that combined, in a relationship experience, because now your world is no more on the outside – your world is now more introverted, into the focus thereof only being on the relationships, therefore you channel all your Fears into the Relationships.

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Therefore it becomes even more extensive.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: and therefore you’ll pick up Weight very quickly, when you’re in a relationship or Agreement, because you’re compounding all of those Fears, channelling them into this One experience, It’s not dispersed, okay?

And in terms of you’re, your Physical-Form-Weight experience at the moment, you’re keeping it in that form, because of this Fear, that you’re existing in and you’re Living in, all the time, based on this event that took place as a child, now I’m talking from you only. This is the ‘You’ that is Participating, within the experience of the manifestation of your form at the moment, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Remember, we’ve discussed before how your form has become what and as it is, since you were a child, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: that’s the ‘Physical-Form-Aspect’ – Now, we’re looking at how you’re participating in maintaining this the ‘Physical-Form-Aspect’, does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, so this whole Fear-Point is consistent with, when you were a child, with the Vulnerability Point, when always existing in Fear, in relation to Abuse.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay – now the Abuse, specifically is your definition, wherein you Fear someone ‘making you feel’ Judgment, Inferiority, less-than and all those type of things.

Anna: Okay, yeah...

Resonances: So you’re still thinking or believing that others are the Source or Cause for the way you’re experiencing Yourself, within how you’ve defined You throughout your life, which is inferior. Judgmental, less-than... you know, all those shitty experience and you don’t want to particularly have those experience, but they’re existent In you, and those experiences, you’re having over and over again to show you what you’re Accepting and Allowing of Yourself.
So in essence, beings showing you what you’re Creating, Manifesting, Participating in, within yourself.

Okay?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: So – let’s stop there for now. We’ll continue these interviews, which will probably be quite a few, but I’d say this would be quite a lot of information for now.
I suggest listening to all the points again.

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: Maybe go through it individually, as I suggested, point by point, so you kind of listen to the interview, see all the individual points that was mentioned. See if you can go deeper into them, okay?

Anna: Yeah, okay.

Resonances: Okay, so we’ve got those two points and we’ve only discussed the W female, feminine part of it all. We haven’t yet completely gotten into all the words in relation to feminitiy. We’ve discussed Grace and Vulnerability now. Then we’ve still gotta do Intimacy and Gentleness.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: in how this personification of you as the word ‘Weight’, is manifesting your Physical experience as it is now, both in form-wise and Life-wise.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Cool.

Anna: Thanks.

Resonances: No problem.

Interviews from the Farm 69: Participation in Reality is never an Observation

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:54:23 +0100

Bernard, Andrew & Andrea

16 February 2010

Bernard: So what is the Decision?

Andrew: Well, ehm the point that we are looking at is the decision that I have to make for myself, which is a decision that I’ve never ever made which is actually Standing for something.

Bernard: So the ‘Decision’ = ‘What are you going to Participate in’- Because up to now you’ve only been an ‘Observer’, and to an extent you have then ‘Participated’ in your ‘Observations’ which was then Never ‘Real’ because, your ‘Observation’ is an Illusion, ‘Participating’ in the ‘Observation’ is an ‘attempt’ to make the Observation ‘Real’ - which can never be-

Andrew: your mean your observation is the thoughts.

Bernard: ‘Observation’ is ‘Everything that you ‘Believe’’-which includes Thoughts, includes all your Memories, all of the things you have given ‘Structural Design’ to, as a Definition of ‘your world’, is an ‘Observation’ because it is ‘Exclusively’-‘You’ and it ‘Excludes’ Everyone-else. So therefore it’s just an ‘Observation’, it’s Not a ‘Reality’, because ‘Reality’ includes ‘Everyone’ isn’t it? – that’s undeniable.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Up to now you’ve only ‘Participated’ in your ‘Observation’, which means your whole Existence has been Not-‘Real’ - which is when you ‘Die’ what happens? You Die as an ‘Observation’- ‘Equal and One’ you become what? ‘Observably’: Nothing, because nothing ‘You did’ was ever ‘Real’.

Andrew: Ok.

Bernard: So your ‘Decision’ is simplistically whether you’re going to Participate ‘for Real’ -which means you have to ‘Include’ in your Reality ‘Everyone-else’, because that’s ‘Real’, they all ‘Exist’.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Or are you going to ‘Only’ Participate in your ‘Observation’ which is ‘Self-Interest’ - which means you’re going to pay the ‘Interest’ for-that -which is like your ‘Money System’. I mean, have a look: ‘Interest’ eats-up Reality. That’s basically the ‘Decision’ Everybody is gonna make I mean, this ‘Decision’ is Exactly ‘the Same’ for Every-Single-Being in Existence.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: First of-all, you must Obviously be ‘Aware’ that, if you look in your ‘Observation’: You’re Not ‘Aware’ of ‘Everyone’.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: That’s a ‘Problem’, so therefore you can’t have an ‘Opinion’ or even any form of ‘Knowledge’ you can ‘Trust’ because, I mean: You’re Not ‘Aware’ of Anyone-else –You’re only ‘Aware’ of Your ‘Observable’ ‘Experience’ - and ‘that’ is Not-even ‘Real’ because that was ‘Pre-Programmed’ so that you have a ‘Functional-Way’ -of ‘Identifying’ with your ‘Observation’ within a form-of ‘Informational Knowledge’, which you then call ‘You’ - which means: the whole ‘You’ is Not-‘Real’.

Does that make sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: How do one then ‘Birth Yourself’ to be ‘Real’ as a ‘Real-Participant’ in Existence? What is the ‘Equality’ we are talking-about? We’re Not talking-about ‘Observation’- We’re Simply ‘Disregarding’ ‘Observation’, we’re talking-about ‘Real’ ‘Participation’ where ‘All’ is ‘Part’-of a ‘Single’ Solution =that’s ‘Oneness’ and ‘Equality’. The ‘Quality’ of-that ‘Participation’ for All is that ‘Everyone’ is got ‘Best’ for All –which means that’s ‘Quality’ of ‘Equality’.

That Obviously if one do the ‘Math’ for-that would mean that the ‘Only’-place where Everyone will have proper ‘Quality’ in ‘Equality’ is: where Everyone is ‘Participating’ As-‘Equals’ – within-‘that’ you cannot-be ‘Equal’ as long as you’re an ‘Observer’, because as an ‘Observer’= You’re Not-‘Real’ - as a ‘Participant’= You are Not-‘Skilled’, so you’re going to have- to Learn ‘How to Participate’. You’re-Not just going-to start Participating and suddenly ‘Know- it- all’ – What is ‘Real’ in ‘Reality’ -that’s gonna be a ‘Process’ – which is the ‘Process’ we talk-about - Does that make sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: That’s ‘Desteni’ in a ‘nutshell’.
So- to ‘try’ and-‘find’ a ‘Reason’ to Make a ‘Decision’ is already an ‘Observation’= it’s already Not-‘Real’. It’s ‘Impossible’ thus to ‘Find the Reason’. A ‘Decision’ is Not-’Reason’ - A ‘Decision’ is an ‘Understanding’-of the ‘Context’-of ‘What is ‘Reality’’ and ‘What is ‘Illusion’’ – and that I’ve just Explained.

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: Then the ‘Context’-of obviously ‘Where’ you ‘Place’-yourself within-that, is Simply a ‘Self-Honest’ ‘Decision’- You can either ‘Do’-it or You Can’t. Understand that ‘Reality’ ‘Supports’-you through ‘that’ of-you what is ‘Real’-which is Not Your-‘Thinking’, it is Not Your-‘Observation’ – it is Your-‘Physical’ within-which and ‘with’-which you have No-‘Communication’ currently -The ‘Only’ Communication you can have it currently, have ‘with’ Your Physical’ currently is ‘Pain’. It is a ‘Signal’-‘System’ that ‘Indicate’ to you – ‘Pain’ or ‘Discomfort’ that ‘Indicates’ to you: you have to look at-your ‘Participation’. And that ‘Pain’ is Not-something You ‘Observe’= it’s Fucking-‘Real’. The ‘Discomfort’ is Not-‘Something’ You ‘Observe’ = it ‘Overpowers’-you.

The ‘Resonance’ isn’t ‘Something’-that ‘You Observe’ = it ‘Happens’ to-you – It is ‘Real’.
What you are then ‘Experiencing’ is something you can’t ‘Direct’ because: it’s got ‘Power’ ‘over’-you – that’s ‘Real’. That’s why we use ‘that’-which is ‘Real’ to ‘Assist’ Everyone-with. Then obviously ‘How’ do you ‘Suppress’-it? You ‘Observe’-it, you make a ‘Value’-Judgment about-it and in-that, you ‘cycle’-it, so that you end-up in ‘Observer’-mode again and then, Never-take ‘Action’, so now it gets ‘worse’ – every ‘cycle’. This is been going-on for ‘Millions’ of-years.

So- back to ‘what’? The ‘Decision’ - I mean have a-look at the Fascinating thing: the World ‘Exist’ as ‘Systems’, ‘Systems’ that ‘Manage’ the ‘Interaction’-of People. That ‘Systems’ is ‘Real’– they are having an ‘Effect’ ‘On’-you and they have ‘Power’ ‘Over’-you = They are ‘Real’ because, you have to ‘Act’ ‘according’-to them in ‘Participation’- it’s Not an ‘Observation’. You Have No-‘Choice’ in-that.
The Question then is ‘Is these ‘Systems’- or ‘Are these ‘Systems’ that ‘Exist’ in this World ‘Managing’ the Relationships between the ‘Living Beings’ on this Planet, are they ‘Managing’ the ‘Relationships’ between People in-a ‘way’ that is ‘Equal for All’ and ‘Best for All’ – they are Not.

Andrea: No.

Bernard: So, Our ‘Participation’ is then in these ‘Systems’ to ‘Change’-them to ‘Equality’ and ‘Oneness’. ‘That’ you Cannot-‘Do’ as an ‘Observation’ or Using ‘Knowledge’ or, anything-else but: Having to ‘Actually’ ‘Participate’ in-them.

‘Desteni Farm’ is simply the Place where we ‘Train’ ‘Participants’ to go-back into the ‘System’ and to Start taking ‘Directive Principle’ of-them and bring some ‘Common Sense’ to ‘Reality’, so that what we end-up-with at this stage – over a very-long period of time – we end-up in a ‘Reality’ where Children can be ‘Born’-into and be ‘taken care’-of – that’s just one simple-point.

Now One must Decide whether One want to ‘Participate’ in something like that. The ‘Context’ of-that obviously is ‘Where’ and ‘How’. Within-that you have to Obviously look-at your ‘Effectiveness’ and ‘Potential’ as ‘Participant’ –‘How far’ are you going to-go? ‘How far are you ‘Willing’ to-go?’ – Which is ‘Self-Willed’ in getting this ‘Reality’ ‘sorted’-out.

What is the ‘Point’ of ‘Agreement ‘within-that? Only ‘one thing’: the Human have a ‘Peculiar’ ‘Condition’ that is ‘Real’: The Human requires Sex ‘Regularly’- the ‘Agreement’ is there to ‘Satisfy’ that Particular ‘Real-Reality’ without going-into a ‘Delusional’-point ‘about’-it - so that one can get ‘down’-to the other shit, which there is ‘many’-of that we have-to ‘Participate’-in and ‘Sorting’-out this ‘Reality’.

So, within-that one simply ‘place’-you in an ‘Agreement’ where you Focus-on getting the ‘Sex’-part ‘Sufficiently’ ‘Effective’ so-that you do Not have-to go-into ‘Observation’-Mode to ‘search’ for another ‘Point’ where you Believe you could have-it ‘Better’. As long as that ‘Observation’ Exist = Your ‘Agreement’ is Not-‘Real’- It’s that simple. Within-that, the ‘Agreement’ between Beings are to be ‘Self- Honest’ and State either ‘it works’ - that means ‘I am Satisfied’ or ‘I’m Not-Satisfied’ - and if one can’t get to ‘Satisfaction’, then simply the ‘Agreement’ should Not-‘Exist’. And just on that one ‘point’ all ‘Agreements’ will be ‘Managed’- Nothing-else is ‘Relevant’, because that one single-‘point’ will either ‘cause’-you to go-into ‘Observation’-Mode to ‘look’-for another ‘alternative’ or you’ll be ‘Satisfied’ - which means you can Focus on the shit you have to do, ‘Practically’, ‘Common-Sensically’ - Make sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: And therefore the ‘Decision’ becomes ‘Simplistic’. Many ‘Agreements’ will start and Not ‘Last’ because, once ‘Self-Honesty’ is ‘reached’, I mean the ‘Decision’ will either become: ‘Yes, We Walk’/ ‘No, We Don’t-Walk.’ If that doesn’t ‘Self-Honesty’ doesn’t come-through= the ‘Agreement’ will go into ‘War’, because there will be: ‘War’, a fighting-about ‘Dominance’.

What would be the ‘Point’? The ‘Point’s simplistically ‘attempting’-to ‘Change’ the ‘Physical’ - You can’t ‘Change the Physical’= You’ve already ‘Created’-it.

You have to now ‘Trust’ that the ‘Physical’ know what the fuck it’s doing, because why would-it have ‘Allowed’-you to come Here and apparently ‘fuck with Reality’ through ‘Observation’- Did you really ‘fuck with Reality’ or are you ‘Fucked’? You didn’t really ‘fuck with Reality’, you are ‘Really’ ‘Fucked’ in-‘Reality’. ‘Reality’ is much ‘more’ than what can-be ‘Observed’- and ‘Reality’ has got just Certain.... Obvious ‘Principles’. Those ‘Principles’ are: you want to be ‘Part’-of ‘Reality’ = You must ‘Realize’ ‘All’ the ‘Parts’ of ‘Reality’ in ‘Self-Honesty’ and, if you would like the ‘Ability’ to be-able to ‘Observe’ while you ‘Participate’, then your ‘Observation’ should Not-be in-‘Conflict’ with your ‘Participation’ – that means: ‘Equality’. And that ‘Equality’ should Include ‘Principally’ ‘All of Existence’- Not-just your ‘Observable’ Current ‘Reality’. And the ‘Principle’ is Very-‘Simple’ that: ‘Everywhere is Here’ - that means, ‘Who you are Here’ within your ‘Apparent’ ‘Limited-Reality’, determines ‘Who you are’ in ‘All-Parts’-of Existence in ‘All’ your ‘Participation’. Therefore, if you are Not-‘Consistent’ in Every-‘Here’ ‘Considering’ ‘All-Parts’ of ‘Reality’ = You can’t be ‘Trusted’ and therefore, will Not be ‘Allowed’ to Return-to ‘Reality’, you will remain in ‘Delusion’. Make sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: Now the most ‘difficult’-thing is simply ‘The Decision’ – because that ‘Decision’ requires ‘Self-Honesty’ - and what is fascinating is-that, if one look-at your ‘Existence’-as something that is ‘broken-down’ into ‘Time’ and you take this ‘Time’ into the ‘Practical-Participation’ ‘Part’ of-it - which is Breath – then your ‘Existence’ consist out-of a certain amount of ‘Breaths’ and this ‘Breath’ of-you as-‘Real’ as you ‘Participate’, you want to be ‘Consistence’ so that you can ‘Trust’ Yourself and Focus-on what it is you’re Here to ‘Do’ and to Develop your ‘Skills’ ‘Sufficiently’ so that you can really ‘bring-forth’ a ‘System’ of ‘Equality for All’.

If you find these ‘Breaths’ Not-‘Consistent’, ‘Practical’ and you are ‘Influenced’ by your ‘Observation’, obviously there are tools like ‘Self-Forgiveness’, like ‘Self-Honesty’ and ‘Common Sense’ and obviously ‘Support’ from others to come and ‘Release’-yourself from your ‘Delusion’ and get-back to ‘Reality’, which is ‘Participating’-Here. Within this ‘Context’, Each-One is ‘Alone’, no one can in any-way ‘Decide’ for you what your ‘Participation’ must-‘be’ because, at the end of the day the ‘Design’-of ‘Reality’ is in such a way to give All the ‘Delusionists’ each an ‘Equal’-Opportunity to ‘Redeem’-themselves through ‘Participation’ - and they must do-that ‘Alone’ without help – otherwise they can Never Be ‘Real’.

Does that make sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Really ‘Simplistic’. I mean, that is now the Total-Evolution over ‘how long’ – that we find ourselves here ‘Attempting’ to-‘Make Observation Real’. Now what is ‘Fascinating’ about-this is How has our ‘History’ Developed? Our ‘History’ is ‘Developed’-by those that is Here, ‘Observing’ then ‘Participating’ in the ‘Observation’, ‘Pretending’ in ‘Making-it ‘Real’ - you know, it’s like going to ‘War’- it’s an ‘Observation - then you ‘Participate’ in Your ‘Observation’, you make ‘War’, many ‘Die’, you come back and it ‘Disappears’ in-the ‘Annals of History’ - Was it ‘Real’?

Andrea: No.

Bernard: No, it wasn’t. You ‘Participated’-in ‘Observation’, you ‘Attempted’-to ‘Make-it ‘Real’’ but it wasn’t ‘lasting’ - same with ‘Agreements’: you ‘Observe’-something, you ‘Like’-something, but when you ‘Participate’ there is something that doesn’t want-to ’work’. Now, you either are Able to ‘Adjust’-yourself or you’re Not – It’s really ‘simplistic’-stuff.

You cannot make ‘Observation’ ‘Real’, it is ‘Impossible’ because, your ‘Observation’ will ‘Always’-be ‘Only’-about ‘Your Own Fear’ and ‘Your Own Self-Interest’. It ‘Never’ Considers ‘Everyone’ and you are ‘Always’ in a ‘Level of Scales’, that means: you are ‘Always’ either ‘Higher’ or ‘Lower’-than ‘someone’ according-to your ‘Observation’. I mean the ‘Participant’ doesn’t have a ‘Higher’ or a ‘Lower’ because, the ‘Participant’ in ‘Equality’ ‘Has-Everything’- There is No-‘Higher’ or ‘Lower’, there is Only-Obviously the ‘Point’ that: if you are Not ‘Yet’ ‘Everything’, you better ‘get your ass-there’ –

That makes sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya

Bernard: Really ‘Simplistic’.
So- Our ‘History’ that is taught to our children, are ‘Attempted’-‘Observations’ that were in ‘Self-Interest’- in ‘Self-Interest’ been ‘Attempted’-to make ‘Real’ and which is being ‘Controlled’-by a ‘Delusional’-‘System’ based on ‘Debt’ - because by Apparently ‘Observing’ Everyone to-‘Have’ some ‘flaw’, you’re Allowed to ‘Apparently’ ‘Place’-yourself in a ‘System’ where you can be ‘Better’ or ‘Worse’ and within-that, you are ‘Apparently’ ‘Evolving’ - There is No ‘Evolution’ taking-place.
There is Simply either ‘Delusion’ or ‘Reality’. Those that ‘Die’ within ‘Observation-Mode’ are rather ‘Diminished’. You cannot ‘Debate’ ‘Reality’ – ‘Reality’ Includes-‘Everything’ so there’s No-‘Debate’. ‘Observation’ obviously can be ‘Debated’ because you are ‘trying’-to ‘win’ and ‘trying’-to ‘Impress upon-others’ your ‘Observation’ as ‘More’-‘Real’ and ‘More’-‘True’ than somebody else’s - That is Not-‘True’ or ‘Truth’ or ‘Real’, or ‘Reality’ –simply ‘Madness’.

So, what is ‘Really’ the ‘Point’ of the ‘Decision’- like in this particular case-? It’s either you can ‘Walk’ within the ‘Principle’ of ‘Participation’ to find-‘ways’ to bring-about a ‘Change’ in the ‘System’ from ‘Delusion’ to ‘Reality which is ‘Best for All’. Within-that you are ‘Unequal’ as ‘Participants’ because you have ‘Different’ ‘Levels’-of ‘Experiences’ in ‘Different’-‘Fields’ and that will take-‘time’ to ‘Correct’.

Furthermore, you are within the ‘Context’-of Your-‘Past’ and the ‘Potential’ of Your-‘Future’ – both of-that will ‘play a role’ depending-on whether you have given your ‘Observations’ ‘Value’ or Not.

Then there is Obviously the ‘Common Sense’ ‘Part’-of ‘Where’ one will be Most-‘Effective’ and, if you would to be ‘Satisfied’-with Your Own ‘Participation’ if you do Not ‘reach’ your ‘Optimum’ ‘Participation’- ‘Potential’- ‘Practically’. Within-that obviously your ‘Decision’ is ‘much’-more ‘Difficult’ than ‘her Decision’ because, Remaining ‘Here’ you’re going-to have-to ‘Accept’ Certain ‘Limitations’.

‘Returning’ you will have much-more a ‘Responsibility’. You must ‘Decide’ whether you can ‘live’ with which-one you can Live ‘Practically’ - You have ‘No Say’ in-that, because...

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: ...Nothing ‘you say’ can ‘Change’- the ‘Resonance’ will simply ‘take-over’.

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: That’s ‘Simplistically’ the story.

Andrew: Ok.

Bernard: Make Sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Within-that you have to ‘Act’ because: the longer you-‘wait’, the ‘longer’ it-‘takes’

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: and the more your ‘Experiences’-of ‘Discomfort’ will ‘Escalate’ and take-you to a ‘Point’ where-you Eventually will ‘Act’ in ‘Anger’, ‘Destroying your Reality’ where you then Have-to ‘move’-on, you see that’s why ‘Anger’-Exist. ‘Anger’ is the ‘Tool’ that make-sure you ‘move’-on when you don’t ‘want’-to - does that make sense?

Therefore ‘Anger’ is Valid - It’s a ‘Real’ ‘Actual’ Experience.

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: It makes-sure you ‘move’-on if you are Not-‘Effective’. If you are ‘Effective’ = You are ‘Satisfied with Yourself’, you will Never get ‘Angry’.

Make sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya.

Interviews from the Farm 68: Past Time-Line Resonant Correction

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:28:46 +0100

Bernard Poolman, Matti & Esteni
13 February 2010

Remember - in the Discussion with ‘the Creation of Existence’, ‘Time’… the ‘End’ was ‘Placed’ at the Beginning, what does that mean? Everything was ‘Programmed’ into-‘Time’. That means, from a Perspective of ‘Multidimensionality’, you’re ‘Experiencing’ ‘In a Way’, you were Always Experiencing ‘Everything’, All-‘Time-Lines’, ‘All’ at-the ‘Same-Time’, but you were ‘Only’ ‘Aware’-of the ‘Point’ where you are Here. So what did we do? We ‘Brought’ ‘All of-that’-‘Here’, so that ‘Everything’ is ‘Here’ - All you have-to do is You have-to ‘Realize’-it, and ‘Bring’-it ‘Here’ and you ‘Access’-it ‘Direct’.

So if we go ‘back’-to your Experiences when you were very-young in terms of ‘Relationships’, those ‘Experiences’ were Not-‘Defined’ by‘ Vocabulary’ or ‘Words’, they were ‘Defined’-by your Actions’ - I mean, did you ‘Communicate’?, did you ‘Run-Away’?

Matti: Yeah, I didn’t have the ‘Words’ ‘then’

Bernard: Yes, but later-on, you would have ‘Defined’ your ‘Relationships’ with ‘Words’ but they would’ve been ‘Influenced’ by the ‘Actions’…

Matti: by the others ex…

Bernard: when you were younger. Therefore you have to ‘Bring’ your ‘First’-‘Aware’-‘Experiences’ in ‘Relationship’ to ‘People’ ‘Here’, and ‘Look’ at-it again, ‘Re-define’, ‘Give-it a-Name’ for What you ‘Really’ ‘Experienced’…

Matti: Because otherwise I’m just ‘Observing’ the ‘Past-Experience’ defining-it through my, how I’ve ‘Currently’ ‘Defined’ those words.

Bernard: Correct, you’re Not ‘Dealing’ with-it. You have become… You have to Become a ‘Real-Time’ ‘Participant’ in-that ‘Experience’ again, ‘Re-define’-it Now –that’s ‘Quantum-Time’ -‘Bring-it-Here’, You ‘Walk’-it-again, you are ‘that-Being’ again, that ‘You’ that was ‘Defined’ at that ‘Time’. I mean if you look-at your ‘later’ ‘Experiences’ in terms-of ‘Relationships’ and ‘People’ and so-on, That’s already-‘Influenced’ by your ‘First Actions’ when you were a child, so you cannot ‘Trust’ your ‘Observation’ of-that, You have-to ‘Re-Participate’ in ‘Everything’ - so that you can ‘Re-define’ everything to the ‘Point’ of getting to ‘What is the ‘Point’ Within – say ‘Agreement’, Within-‘People’, Within-‘Discussion’, Within-Communication’, ‘Within-Gentleness - What is the ‘Point’ ‘there’ which you have ‘Left-in-Time’ within ‘Memory’ as Your ‘Experiences’ which has become ‘Symbolically’-‘You’, which is ‘Resonantly’-‘You’, which is ‘Dominating’ your ‘Current’ ‘Attempt’-to ‘Deal’ with-it –and now you can’t ‘Deal’ with-it because the ‘Resonance’ Takes-‘Over’ because it Still ‘Acts’ on-your ‘Instruction’, Your ‘First’-‘Action’, Your ‘First’-‘Imprint’, Your ‘First’-‘Impression’.

Matti: So it doesn’t matter what ‘Statement’ I make, ‘Directive Statement’ I make, because I’m making that through an Observation…

Bernard: It will not – if the ‘Statement’ does not change the ‘Condition’… if the ‘Statement’ does not ‘Change’ the ‘Condition’= You have to ‘go back’ and ‘Re-Experience’ - otherwise you’re going-to ‘Time-Loop’ until you get- to the ‘Point’ where you are ‘Dealing’ with the ‘Experience’ so that you have a ‘Real-Time’, ‘Directive-Principle’ ‘Re-Alignment’.

Matti: It’s the same Principle as calling Green ‘Green’ instead-of what it actually is.

Bernard: Correct, I mean you’re ‘Dealing’-with your ‘Base’ ‘First-Impression’ of ‘Reality’, which is ‘Why’ – What is the ‘Two-things’ within the ‘Process’ of ‘Structural Resonance Alignment’ that we have to First ‘Re-Align’? It is ‘Family’, and it is ‘Relationships’ –that means, Not-as you understand ‘Relationships’ in ‘Love’ and so-on - ‘All your Interaction’ with ‘All-People’ during your ‘Life’ – ‘How did you Act?’, ‘What did you ‘Think’?’, ‘What did you ‘Say’?’, ‘What did you ‘Do’?’, ‘Who’ were ‘You’? And ‘all-of-that’, you have to ‘Re-Align’ ‘all-of-that’ into ‘Equality and Oneness’ – Make sense?

Matti: So the ‘Re-Alignment’ …

Bernard: Is ‘Realigning’-it to ‘Equality and Oneness’ - You are ‘Correcting’ ‘Your Past’ - In ‘Correcting Your Past’, you are ‘Changing Your Future’.

Matti: Through not doing-it through ‘Making an Observation’ through my Current Definitions but to Actually ‘go-back’ to the Actual…

Bernard: You’re Not-‘going-back’, You are ‘Bringing’-it ‘Here’.

Matti: Or ‘See’ the…

Bernard: It’s ‘Here’ You ‘Re-Experience’-it, You ‘Re-Align’-it – it’s the ‘Same’ thing you can do with a ‘Dream’: You move-into the ‘Dream’, the ‘Dream’ is ‘Here’, You-‘Move’ ‘Yourself’ in relationship-to ‘All Events’, till you have ‘Equality’ and ‘Oneness’ Established, You ‘Integrate’-that ‘As You’ and say ‘This is Who I am’ Now, in-that ‘Event’, that ‘Event’ will No-Longer have-‘Power’ ‘Over-Me’, I am Now ‘This’ –Does that Makes Sense?

Matti: Uh, yeah it Makes Sense from the Perspective that, in looking-‘back’ at-it it’s still…

Bernard: ‘Observation’.

Matti: …‘Acknowledging’-it as an ‘Influential’ ‘Experience’…

Bernard: Correct, instead of a ‘Directive’…

Matti: Instead of actually ‘Correcting’ or ‘Re-Aligning’ Myself ‘As’-that…

Bernard: Correct.

Matti: ‘Experience’ as ‘Who I was’ ‘In that Moment’.

Bernard: As the ‘Participant’, As the ‘Participant’. You’re Still ‘Participating’ in-it, Have-a ‘Look’: You’re ‘Really’, You are Just ‘Repeating’ the ‘Same-Pattern’, so you’re Still ‘Participating’ In-that ‘Pattern’, You Establish the Pattern again - You ‘Bring’ that Pattern ‘Here’, You ‘Re-Align’ the ‘Pattern’, You ‘Correct’-Yourself and now ‘You Walk’. Make Sense? And so you ‘Identify’…

Matti: In ‘Theory’ it Makes Sense.

Bernard: Yes, Obviously – I mean, this is gonna-take ‘Practice’ from the Perspective: ‘till you ‘Get-it’’.

Matti: Yeah.

Esteni: In terms-of the ‘Mind-Constructs’ the only ‘Point’ that we are-at Now, is the ‘Point’-of ‘Bringing’ those ‘Experiences’ ‘Here’ and ‘Walking-through-them’ ‘As’ the ‘Participant’ – that’s the ‘Point’ that we’re-at – we haven’t gotten to the ‘Re-Alignment’ yet, that comes as soon as we go to the ‘Self-Corrective Statements’.

Bernard: Yes, now Hear - What am I ‘Dealing’-with? or What am I ‘Placing’-‘Here’ so that One ‘Understand’ the ‘Basic’ -‘Point’ of the… the ‘Equation’ which is the ‘Pattern’ you are ‘Repeating’, which is the ‘Game-Theory’, because that’s the ‘Game’ You ‘Played’-‘then’, that’s the ‘Game’ You’re Still ‘Playing’-‘Now’, then we Take the ‘Quantum-Theory’ which says that ‘All Things are Existent Right-Here-Now’ and We Make-it ‘Real’ ‘Participate’ in-it ‘Right-Now’, and ‘Bring-it-Back’ - You ‘Re-Align’-it - which is ‘Quantum-Theory’, which is ‘Actual’ ‘Quantum-Application’ –and All of-that is ‘Self-Realization’ – Does that Make Sense?

Because You are Now ‘Correcting’ ‘Your Life’ from the Beginning, and in ‘Correcting’-it you’re also ‘Correcting the Outflow’ so that you can Look at the ‘Future’ and see: ‘Is there Any of-these ‘Patterns’ ‘Recurring’?’ By ‘Bringing- the -Future’- ‘Here’, looking-at ‘Everything’ you can be this Life and ‘Check’, ‘What am I going to-be in ‘this Condition’/‘this Situation’?’

Matti: That’s the whole ’Scenario’ point.

Bernard: And you can ‘test’ ‘Everything’-out ‘Before’-you ‘get-to-it’, ‘As’ a ‘Participant’. Not as a ‘Observer’.

Matti: Yeah

Bernard: And I mean, ‘that’ gives-you Fuckin ‘Confidence’ and ‘Trust’ – Make Sense?

Matti: That Makes Sense, yeah.

Bernard: It’s Really ‘Cool’-shit.

Matti: Well basically my ‘Action’ ‘then’ determined the ‘Rules’ I’m currently living by, in ‘The Game’.

Bernard: Correct, the Pattern – the ‘Rules’, the ‘Pattern’, the ‘Rules’, the ‘Pattern’. Then, and I mean, that Happened when you were a Child before you had ‘Vocabulary’ –so therefore it is ‘Existent’ within-you as an ‘Energetic’- ‘Action’, it’s an ‘Energy’- ‘Symbol’ that is ‘Integrated’ ‘As’-You and you’re just ‘Repeating’ the ‘same-thing’.

Matti: And ‘the way’ I’m ‘living the words’ that I’m now using to define that ‘Past Experience’… Bernard: still Influenced by ‘that’.

Matti :…is Influenced-‘by’ that Experience.

Bernard: Yes, I mean that you have already-‘Proven’ in your latest ‘Experiences’, because you’ve Not been able to ‘Direct’ those Experiences, I mean ‘Why’ was that ‘Necessary’? People Do Not want-to ‘Realize’ or ‘Conceive’-that the ‘Resonance’ or the ‘Pattern’ is that ‘Powerful’.

Matti: Yeah.

Bernard: That means you have ‘Abdicated’ your ‘Total’ ‘Directive-Principle’ to-‘Patterning’, to ‘Equations’, to an ‘Energy-Force’ that takes-you-‘Over’ - it ‘Directs’-you. And Now you have ‘Defined’ some ‘Energies’ ‘You Like’ –because ‘they’re nice’, and some you ‘Don’t-Like’ – you try and ‘Avoid’ the ones you ‘Don’t-Like’, you try and ‘Hang’-on to the ones ‘You Like’, which then ‘Isolate’-you more and more from ‘All of Creation’ and Cause-you Not to ‘See’ what’s going-on. Make Sense?

Matti: Yeah.

Bernard: That is ‘How’ Separation gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger – which is where we are Taking ‘Everything’, to the ‘Point’ where the Person will ‘Stop’ and say: ‘Fuck, what’s going on?’ ‘Why can’t I ‘Stop’ My Experience from always ‘fucking-out?’ When you get-to that ‘Point’ and You are ‘Willing’ to Consider ‘Self-Honesty’, ‘Self-Forgiveness’ and the Fact that you can ‘Actually’ ‘Do something about-it’ = then you’ll Start-to ‘Walk the Path’. You First-Start-with Your ‘Current’ ‘Scenario’ so you can just ‘See’ that ‘Self-Forgiveness’ ‘Works’, you’ve gotta become quite-‘Effective’ in that, before you get-to the ‘Quantum Theory’, and the ‘Quantum’ ‘Re-Direct… ‘Re-Alignment’. Because if you are Not-‘Well-Prepared’ = You Can’t ‘Do’-that ‘Effectively’, it’ll still be ‘Influenced’ - but you’ve done a-lot of ‘Homework’ now; now it’ll become easier and easier – until, by the-time we get-to ‘Quantum Theory’ for Everyone, You’ll do your ‘Re-Alignment’ ‘Effectively’ –otherwise you go and do your ‘Re-Alignment’ from a Perspective still of ‘Ego’, I mean You really Fuck Yourself.

Matti: Yeah it’s from a… Starting-Point of ‘fix’ trying-to ‘fix something’ instead of actually…

Bernard: And that is not, You’re Not-‘Fixing’-it, You are…’Standing’ ‘As-it’ and: it No-Longer ‘Exists’. It’s Not a ‘Fix’, it’s a Fuckin ‘Stop’ ‘Completely’ Your ‘Past’.

Matti: Yeah that’s why it never works if… as ‘fixing’.

Bernard: So we, you ‘Stop Reality’ in ‘All ways’ - Bam! And You Walk, ‘Re-Aligned’- ‘Structural-Resonance’ ‘Re-Alignment’. Now all you need is: to ‘Identify’ all the Points that’s ‘Fucking’-with-you, ‘that’ you do in ‘Real-Time’ as You ‘Walk’ –something happens, ‘Agreements’, whatever – Find the ‘Point’, ‘Re-Align’, ‘Re-Align’, ‘Re-Align’ - That ‘Re-Alignment’ takes-you on average 7 years or more.

Matti: Cause that’s the first 7 years of... Life. Bernard: That’s your First fuckin’ 7 years. Matti: So all the ‘Primary’ ‘Patterns’ Basically…

Bernard: I mean the ‘Patterns’ that ‘Show’ in your Life ‘Currently’ are mostly ‘Justifiable’-‘Patterns’ –that means you have, ‘Mutated them’ ‘Over-Time’ to ‘Suit’-you within a Particular ‘Personality-Alignment’ ‘Construct’ which you are ‘Comfortable’-with, in ‘Presenting’-Yourself ‘In this World’ as ‘This is Who I am’, but that ‘Who you are’ ‘Presenting’-Yourself to-‘be’ is ‘Limited’ in Every-Way Conceivable, because it has an ‘Energetic’-‘Resonance’ that is ‘Good’ and ‘Bad’ - you know, it is just ‘Wave-lengths’, ‘Vibrations’, where you are trying-to ‘Deal’-with ‘Reality’ in a Very-Limited ‘Construct’ –

Matti: I see that Point of the ‘Persona’ built around-it, I mean I’m ‘Seeing’ that and yet Experiencing… ‘ but that’s the only’….

Bernard: Okay. Now, that’s where you’re ‘Dealing’ with the ‘Mind-Construct’ Now. Now, that ‘Construct’ is ‘Designed’ ‘Over-Time’, so now you have to ‘Align’ All your ‘Time-Lines’ till you have ‘All your Time-Lines’ ‘Here’ – You can’t do that ‘Quantumly’ = You have to then ‘one-by-one’, because you’re Simply Not-‘Sufficiently’ ‘Effective’ with the ‘Movement’ of All the ‘Vocabulary’ and ‘All’ the ‘Relationships’ within-it to ‘Do’-it in a ‘Way’ that is ‘Trust-Worthy’. You have to ‘make-sure’ when you have ‘Aligned’-it, it is ‘Effectively-Done’ - you Miss ‘One-Point’ = You’re going-to ‘Time-Loop’ and it’s gonna ‘Influence’ Everything-else you do from then – therefore You Do-it ‘Properly’ the ‘First-time’, you…you do the ‘Allotted-Time’ because: That’s the ‘Time’ it ‘took’-you to get ‘Fucked’.

Matti: and leaving the ‘Time-Line’ ‘as-it- is’ is basically like where, it’s basically Accepting-Myself to Exist in a ‘Point of Time’. Bernard: Correct.

Matti: ‘With the ‘Past’ as an ‘Unchangeable Influence’. Bernard: Yes, which is Not ‘Who You are’.

Matti: instead of bringing the ‘Time-Line’ ‘Here’ and Realizing: It’s Not-about ‘Time’.

Bernard: You ‘Bring-it-Here’, and you, Until Everything is ‘Here’, Now you ‘Live’- ‘Here’ – Now you have No ‘Past’, you have No ‘Future’ – You Are ‘Here’. Matti: It’s Not about a ‘Time-Line’ then, it’s about ‘Who I am’. Bernard: Yes, it’s just ‘Living’-‘Here’ ‘As-Breath’.

Matti: yeah. Bernard: Got-it? Simplistic?

Matti: Yeah.

Bernard: But it is ‘Hard’-‘work’ meaning: You have to Do-it for Yourself - says: ‘I’m Now ‘Setting-Myself-Free’ from this Shit’. Makes Sense? Good. Do you like it?

Esteni: Yes

Interviews from the farm 67: Game Theory of the Gods ont he Road to Freedom

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:18:05 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
12-Feb-10

Okay, so – ‘Game Theory of the Gods’ is the ‘Next Series’ that we’ll be Starting - Video uploads in ten days-time.

What is ‘Game Theory of the Gods’? That is the ‘Mathematical-Equations’ within-which Everyone’s ‘Life’ and ‘Consciousness’ in itself has been ‘Designed’, so that you can have an ‘Experience’ within-which you are ‘Believing’-yourself to ‘have’ some form-of ‘Free Will’.

Now, this ‘Free Will’ - as Many is already Starting to ‘Realize’- is obviously Not ‘Free’ at all.

What will the ‘Game Theory of the Gods’ ‘Assist’-you with? It’ll ‘Assist’-you with ‘Understanding’ ‘Creation’ In-‘Fact’ - because after- all what...as we said at Desteni, it’s about: the ‘Equality of All’ – which means: You have to ‘Equally’-‘Understand’ ‘How’ Everything ‘Actually’ ‘Operates’ – And you’ve gotta be able to ‘work-it-out’ for Yourself, therefore You ‘Require’ a ‘Sufficient’ ‘Understanding’-of ‘The Game Theory of the Gods’, so that Nobody can ‘Mind-Control’-You, Nobody can ‘Influence’-you, Nobody can make-you ‘Experience’-something, unless you can ‘Actually’ ‘Do’ the ‘Mathematics’-Yourself and ‘See’ for Yourself that What the Person is talking about, You can also Understand ‘Equally’ by doing the ‘Mathematics’-Yourself.

This is obviously gonna take-‘Time’ because, there’s gonna be ‘Hundreds ‘-of Interviews Explaining Every-‘Point’ ‘Meticulously’ in terms-of the ‘Base Theory’ of ‘How’ the ‘Equation’‘Operates’ that ‘brings’-that ‘Particular’-Point ‘Equally’ into ‘Visible’, ‘Experienceable’, ‘Creation’ ‘Here’ Within this ‘System’ of ‘Consciousness’ on Earth.

So I Suggest: Prepare Yourself, Subscribe - Understand that, the ‘Applied’ ‘Game Theory of the Gods’ we’ll be doing with ‘Facilitation’ in the SRA Courses –in the ‘Structural Resonance Alignment Training’- in about a year/year and a half’s time.

That part of the Curriculum will start –you can call-it Virtually ‘The Curriculum of the Gods’ because, what is ‘Required’ to be ‘Understood’ when you are ‘Dealing’-with ‘Creation’, is Obviously ‘All Parts’-of ‘Everything that Exist’ Needs to be ‘Understood’ – Not ‘As’ the ‘Observer’ but ‘As’ the ‘Participant’ –and the ‘Way’ it ‘Operates’ as ‘Within’ and ‘As’ the ‘Participant’, is it ‘Works’-in ‘Real-Time’ ‘Math’, it is an ‘Instant’‘Calculation’ that is Made by Your ‘Resonance’, which is ‘Really’ ‘Representing’ ‘You’-You are Just a ‘Slave’-of these ‘Symbolisms’ that is the ‘Symbols’-of ‘Mathematics’ within an ‘Equation’ of ‘Variables’.

In this, you will then come-to the ‘Conclusion’-yourself , ‘Eventually’ that ‘What is Best for All’ is ‘Equality’ –is an ‘Equation’ which ‘Gives’-Everyone ‘Freedom’ within the ‘Context’ of the Current ‘Limitation’ - that ‘Gives’-Everyone ‘Responsibility’, and that ‘Gives’-Everyone ‘Equality’ in ‘Understanding’, and ‘Sufficient’ ‘Skills’ to ‘Deal’ with-it – Obviously this will take a Moment –which is ‘a couple of years’ –for it to-be ‘Filtered’-through ‘All of the World’.

We Estimate at-least ‘3 Generations’ if we Work at-it at a ‘Global Level’ – So, It’ll ‘take a while’- But, the ‘Longer ‘we Wait = the ‘Longer’ it’ll ‘Take’.

So - if you’re Ready-for ‘Really’ ‘Making a Difference’ in Your ‘Own Life’ and on Earth, and in ‘What’ll ‘Happen’ to-You in the ‘Afterlife’’, Get- to-Know: ‘Game Theory of the Gods’.

See you Around.

Interviews from the farm 66: When is Silence Real

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:14:09 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman

21 January 2010

So on the ‘Nature of Silence’ and the How it has been Misunderstood-
When you are Experiencing Silence within you, like in Meditation or you Experience a point of Stability, where you Extremely Focused on a Particular point, Observe the Following:
In your ‘Silence’, if only your Inner-World Exist, or the point that you are Focusing on –
That’s Not Real Silence -
That is a Resonance Silence, that means for a moment, the Resonance is giving you the Idea that what you are Experiencing is Silence.
In Fact, it’s simply Trapping you so that you Miss the Point that the Whole World around you is Gone away and you’re in a ‘Special place’ of Silence.
This is specially practiced in Meditation.
if you go into this state of Silence in Meditation and the ‘Noise’ of the World Disappears - You are somewhere in an Alternate Reality of your Own Making,
you are not even Actually Making the whole thing, you’re just Stepping ‘into it’, a ‘Room’ that’s been Prepared for you, so that you can feel ‘Godly’ and ‘Divine’ in your Silence and you Miss Reality Completely.
Silence is: where you are Flowing with Reality in All the Sounds of it that is Existing Here, and You are Not Interfering with that with your Mind - so your Thoughts, Your Being and Your Interaction with it, is in ‘Harmony’ and there is No Contradiction, Conflict, Judgment, Fear and all the various Emotions, you are Flowing as One with it.
That is Silence.
Because you’re Not Interfering with Reality, you are Moving As Reality.
But if You are in Any Projected ‘Place’, ‘Room’, ‘Space’ that Isolate you from Reality Here, that is Not Silence- that’s Isolation.

Interviews from the farm 65: Wisdom of the Observer with Mythomania

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:08:41 +0100

Bernard Poolman & Darryl Thomas

19 January 2010

Bernard: ok, You were saying?

Darryl: Ah that was so weird - so we just have like this fishbowl around our heads that we take as …

Bernard: If you look at the Context of the Universe, the Earth will look like a Fishbowl
Isn’t it?
It’ll be like, from far-off this… watery place, with a few points of Entertainment in it called ‘Land’
Isn’t it?
And, you are bubbling along within it, gasping for air.

Anna: trying to look out

Bernard: Yes, and you are Eating, you are Shitting and you are, have a Functional System that Breathes for you, because You don’t Breathe.
You are attempting to Observe what is ‘Real’.
I mean, what are you Observing? How can you Trust your Observation if you cannot even Observe the System that is Currently Existent that is Not Equal Support for all Life?
And you’re Unable to See that and you are Unable to Observe ‘What to do about it’ - that means you’re completely Disempowered as the Observer.
Yet, from the perspective of your Science the Observer seemingly is the one that is the Creator, it is Not-
the Observer is only the Creator of Consciousness - that’s the ‘Con’ within which your Conscience is warped to Not Actually Care, then you Dare to give Definitions to Words like ‘Love’ and Align Yourself to your Definition and Defend your Definition of ‘Love’, Generating within yourself an Energy that Feels according to Your Observation - like ‘love’- and then you Act within that.
But all of that is Illusion - it is Not ‘Reality’, which is what Death Proves because-
If you were Able to Actually Converse with the Dead, you will at any given moment be able to Converse with All Dead Beings - whether Animal, Plant, Stone, Molecule, Human - All of them at Once, Immediately.
I mean, Obviously
If you can’t do that and you have a ‘Select Few’ you Communicate with, You Must Realize that you have Created the ‘Select few’ as your Particular Delusion
And obviously they will Speak words of ‘Wisdom’ because the ‘Wisdom’ they Speak is the Wisdom you Believe you Have, and they’re just Confirming your Observable ‘Wiseness’
Because in your ‘Wiseness’ you are Answering the question ‘Why’ to your Satisfaction.
The Fact that that Whole Process is a Lie, is Irrelevant.

Darryl: Well it's not considered, I mean, the whole epic sweep of philosophy is, you know, Plato’s perspectives, Socrates perspective… and people think: ‘Wow! that was Awesome - We must be thinking along in the same line’

Bernard: yeah, here basically as ‘Observer’, Creating your own ‘Myths’ it’s- you can call it ‘Mythomania’
You are Living ‘Your Myth’ as the ‘Observations of You’ without even Considering that Everything you’re Observing has got Nothing to do with Reality, it’s only gotta do with ‘Your Reality’, and ‘Your Reality’ ‘Observably’ is the Result of your Observation.
And is only Possible to Exist as long as You Exist in this Particular Form - when this Particular Form ‘Fails you’, then the question becks:

Who are You?, What will Remain?
It’s like a Motor Car- the Moment it runs out of fuel and the tires are gone and you park it under the tree, the Earth will ‘Eat’ it away till there is nothing left.
And what would have Happened to the Life of the car? It is Gone, No More.
And as the Memory Disappear, so does the car - That is the Same with the Human being.

Darryl: Oh yeah, lost Languages, lost Civilizations,

Bernard: All of it is Proving beyond the Shadow of a Doubt that the Human has Not Considered Reality at all -
And that again is Confirmed through a Simple point where One can Look at Reality as you Remove the Human and,
all Knowledge will Disappear, all Wisdom will Disappear, all Civilization will Disappear, all Technology will Disappear - that would mean that the Human is the Actual Creator of these Things and that shows very clearly that there is No God that Exist, whatsoever
And God do Not Determine Anything that Happens on Earth – it is All Human
That’s a simple Math point - I mean, you do the math and You can See for Yourself that:

God Does Not Exist.

Interviews from the farm 64: Enlightenment Explained

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:04:42 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
15 January 2010

So - We’re discussing ‘Enlightenment’ and ‘Ascended Mastery’, and ‘Ascension’ per se.

What did we find in ‘Heaven’? We found 70,000 ‘Ascendant Masters They were grouped under the banner of what they called them themself: “The Invisible College”. And they were in the Service of the ‘Creator Gods’.

Now, let’s investigate, for a moment, the ‘Process of Enlightenment’: It requires you to ‘make peace’ with all Conditions prevailing on Earth and reaching a ‘state’ of ‘Unconditional Love’, which is a ‘state’ of Acceptance of all conditions on Earth as a ‘Natural State’ of ‘Evolution’, or ‘Movement’, or ‘Growth’ - for the Price of being, or the reward of being rather, an ‘Ascendant Master’, both here on Earth where you will then ‘Recruit’ or involve other Beings to follow the same ‘path’ for ‘a Higher Life’ after Death.

Now - the ‘Angels’ followed exactly the same Methodology of Disregarding the Abuse prevailing on Earth, not looking at the Potential of making Life on Earth a ‘state’ which one can call ‘Heaven of Earth’ but rather Accepting the situation as Unchangeable and Prevailing through Multiple Lives, that One ‘grow’ and ‘move’ to a ‘Higher state’, a ‘Higher Being’, a ‘Higher Frequency’, an ‘Higher Energy’ that ‘Lifts you Above’ the so called ‘Lower Energy’ on Earth, and then you are in an apparent ‘better state’ after Death and you ‘out-blow’ closer to the universe, the Universal “I AM”.

Now - we found One Surprise – One being, One person, that’s been on Earth, that Transcended being an ‘Enlightened being’ and that were not trapped in ‘Heaven’ as ‘Ascendant Masters’ in a group that was Existing in Denial of the System on Earth, and that person was Lao Tzu.

So, if you investigate the writings of Lao Tzu, you’ll notice a vast difference between his writings and the writings of ‘Ascendant Masters’ and ‘Angels’ and ‘Channels’. The writings of Lao Tzu is focused on How to Practically live Common-Sensically on Earth. While the writings of ‘Ascendant Masters’, ‘Channels’, ‘Aliens’, ‘Enlightened Beings’, All fall under the category of getting You in a way of Application where you Deny the State on Earth, you do Nothing on about Changing Earth to a place which will be Equal to Heaven, ‘as above as bellow’ - You ‘lift’ Yourself from Earth to a ‘Higher state of Being’ and simply leave Earth be in the way it Exist.

Now, I know this is difficult to hear - These ‘Enlightened beings’ and ‘Ascendant Masters’ and ‘Angels’ were all part of a Deliberate Deception - and therefore, they’d never ‘Ascended’ in-Fact. They purely ended up in a far Greater ‘Polarity-Separation’ than anything else because they took no Responsibility for Earth and the way the Human and the Animal and the Planet Exist - and purely saw it as a ‘school’ instead of an Actual Living Experience.

Suggestion is to study the work of Lao Tzu and to have a look: what is Lao Tzu saying that is so different to what your Enlightened beings are saying? Cause Lao Tzu’s approach is one of Practical Love that Actually, if Applied, will bring about a State of Heaven on Earth which is Practical Solutions, while all the other ‘Channels’ give no Practical Solution but only give you a ‘state of Energy’, which requires you to Become in your ‘Inner Being’ a particular form of ‘Energy’ but you do nothing about bringing forth any Change.

And therefore you are in-Fact then Useless as a Being - Completely. By the way, none of those ‘Ascendant Masters’ Exist anymore and they will Never again Exist. None of the ‘Angels’ Exist anymore and they will Never again Exist. What now Exist, is through Inversion and if you want to understand how that works, you can look at the interviews with Anton LaVey and How ‘Heaven’ and ‘Hell’ and all those things were Created.

With the inversion of Everything, all of these conditions are now Created within and as the Human Mind. And the ‘Communications’ are happening similarly to as before, except that they are Individualized as a ‘state of Possession’ within the Human.

Obviously in the Processes of Beings crossing over, we are investigating, what happens to them under Equality and Oneness as they Die and cross over.

As an example here, we’ll use Elizabeth Clare Prophet which has been quite a well known ‘Channeler’ on Earth, that has presented a very Particular ‘Path’ in ‘Consciousness’. She Died fairly recently and on her crossover it was found that there was nothing left of her, that means: No potential of Individualization Existed and therefore she Amalgamated back to Substance and thus, has lost her opportunity of Equal Individualization due to Living as an ‘Energetic Being’ without any Practical Contribution to the condition on Earth, purely Deceiving people to Live for ‘a Life after Death’ which was absolutely Useless. The Price to pay for that is: that you Lose yourself Completely and thus cannot Individualize yourself or hold yourself together after Death.

So please note that these things has changed dramatically and is going to have a Consequence - Do some Common Sense research in terms of what would be the Consequence if One Do Not Honor Life Equally Here on Earth and Do what is Best for All.

Interviews from the Farm 63: Energy and Science

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:54:26 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
26 December 2009

‘Energy’ and ‘Feelings’ and ‘Science’ and ‘Ego’ - We seem to have an, an over ‘zealous’ Trust in our ‘Science’. Every Human-Being can feel various states of ‘Energy’, and when it is measured by ‘Science’, it’s measured by a ‘Machine’ - What does the ‘Machine’ measure? Variations in ‘Currency’, in ‘Frequency’. Isn’t it ‘strange’ that something so ‘common’ - happening to every Human-Being every day in so many different ways, cannot be ‘specifically’-measured by ‘Science’? And all it is, is a ‘Frequency’, ‘Thoughts’, ‘Frequencies’, ‘Energy’ – it´s very much-like Electricity, we can ‘harness’-it but we don’t know ‘what it is’. We can ‘generate’-it - we don’t know its ‘True Nature’. The Human Being take much for granted - Of a mind that is allowed to run rampant . And then one attempt with ‘Machines’ to ‘measure’ what the ‘Mind’ is, instead of ‘Direct Observation’, ‘Breath by Breath’, looking-at ‘what it is’ we as ‘Humans’ are doing , what are you ‘Feeling’? What are you Not-‘Feeling’? When do you change in your movement? When are you ‘pretending’? – When are you’re Lying? why is it so difficult to be Self-Honest? Why is it so difficult to ‘Look’ for Real? Why is the ‘Desire’ so important? Many ‘Whys’ but what about the ‘How’, ‘How’ is it that we are doing this? ‘What’ is it that we are doing? ‘When’ are we doing it? Best is to ‘Stop’ and first ‘Assess’.

The Desteni Newsletter - Issue 6

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:38:16 +0100

Over the last three months the creators of the Desteni Newsletter Have been hard at work in preparing for the launch of the Cool New SRA Program.

Now with the course underway, we are excited, yet again, to bring you another exciting issue of the always entertaining and informative Desteni Newsletter. So Without further ado, We are pleased to give you, Issue number 6, “The Launch of Structural Resonance Alignment”:

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Interviews from the Farm 62: Resonant Demonic Possession in Relationships

info@desteni.co.za — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:25:27 +0100

10 February 2010

Ok- So we’re talking about ‘Structural Resonance’ and specifically: ‘Resonant Demonic Possession’ - How does the ‘Mind Demon’ or the ‘Resonant Demon’ ‘Operate’, and all of-you now had to some ‘degree’ had an ‘Experience’ which You could Not-‘Control’ that would come ‘over’-you and ‘Dictate’ Your ‘Decision’, until you are taken through an ‘Explanation’ of ‘What it-is that has(is) ‘Happening’ to you’ and then it will ‘Release’ –but as long as the ‘Possession’ is ‘In-Control’, it Actually will ‘take’-you to a Particular-‘Point’ of‘Decision’ – Agree with that?

Everyone: Yeah

Bernard: You all have had,that ‘Experience’ which Indicate ‘What’? That You Do Not-Have ‘Free-Will’, your ‘Resonant Symbolism’ ‘Determines’ your ‘Outcome’, which is your ‘Pre-Programming’. All satisfied you’ve had now Experiences that Confirms that?

Everyone:Yes

Bernard: Ok –so ‘Physically’ ‘Real Time’ You’ve ‘Experienced’ what happens If You go into an ‘Agreement’ based-on ‘Desire’, and‘that’ is Not your ‘Pre-Program’ = You’ll go Completely ‘Bananas’ in a way – and, what is the most ‘Relevant’ ‘Point’ that comes-up is one of ‘Rage’ and ‘Violence’ and ‘Aggression’ and ‘Resentment’, and you start to become rather ‘Nasty’ –You Noticed that?

Everyone:Yeah

Bernard: Because I mean, you have to ‘move’-from the ‘Position’ that you’re in, into ‘Another’-‘Position’ until you are in your ‘Programmed’-‘Position’ which you then ‘Believe’ ‘You have Chosen’
–and the ‘way’ it ‘moves’-you is through giving-you the ‘Experience’ that: ‘That’s not where you wanna be’ - you don’t wanna ‘touch’ that person, you don’t wanna be ‘close’ to that person, but have a-look: You started with the ‘Desire’, You ‘Wanted’ to ‘Be there’- it was a ‘touch’, it was a ‘moment’ - and you ‘Believed’ ‘You could ‘make-it’’ –but have a-look: You can’t,

You cannot ‘Sustain’ that point - Why? Simplistically because You’re Not-‘Equal’ to Your ‘Symbolic Program’ - it is, it ‘knows’-you ‘much better’ than You ‘Know’-‘You’. Your ‘Symbolism’, your ‘Resonance’ is ‘Self-Honest’ = it ‘Knows’ Everything you’ve already ‘Desired’, Everything you’ve already ‘Dreamt’-about, Everything you’ve already ‘Believed you should have’, Every-time you’ve had Sex or Masturbation ‘what you were thinking’ -

Every ‘single-thing’ you’ve ever done, Your ‘Resonance’ Know and is ‘Programmed’ As-it –and it Knows ‘The Real Truth’ about you, and it takes-you to that ‘Point’, like a Fucking ‘Train on a track’ –and there’s nothing you can do about-it.
So- If we…we’re just gonna have a little-bit of a ‘Overview’ so you can see

what are we ‘dealing’-with when we’re talking-about ‘Structural Resonance’.
Your ‘Structural Resonance ‘Preprogrammed’ Alignment’ is ‘How’ the ‘Soul’ has been ‘Programmed’-
The ‘Soul’ was ‘Programmed’ in-the ‘In-Between-Lives’-you wanna know ‘more’ about-that, read stuff from Newton on ‘Destiny of the Souls’, that’s the ‘closest’ you’re gonna get-to ‘How the ‘Preprogramming’ was done’, Okay? ‘How you ‘Chose’ Your ‘Lives’’ and stuff like that –
So, that is the ‘closest’ information, the ‘closest’-to ‘How’ the ‘Life-Between-Lives’ ‘work’ of All the written-work on the Planet at the moment, is Newton’s stuff. There’s a few reasons why Newton’s stuff is so ‘Effective’, he learned One of the Fascinating ‘Keys’ that is ‘Relevant’:

You have to ‘Ask’ the ‘Right Questions’ and you’ve gotta be ‘Able’ to ‘Ask Questions’ without ‘Wanting the ‘Answer’ to Be ‘What you ‘want’-it to be’ so that you can get a ‘RealAnswer’.
And you have-to Learn that if You ‘Change’ the ‘Question’= the ‘Answer’ is gonna ‘Change’
which means, if you are ‘Asking’ the ‘Question’ as an ‘Observer’ = You are ‘Determining’ the ‘Answer’ and it’s Not the ‘RealAnswer’, it’s the ‘Answer’ You-‘Want’ and you’re just ‘Fucked’, which is ‘Why’ the ‘whole-World’ is ‘Fucked’ – Everybody is ‘Waiting’ for a ‘Message’ or a ‘Messenger’ –We’re Not ‘Messengers’, We don’t have a ‘Message’! The Fuckin’-‘Message’ Is ‘The World’
The ‘Mind’ is Now ‘Externalized’ As ‘The World’, and slowly but surely - rather ‘Painfully’- Everybody is going to be taken ‘through the Mind’- And that is Done-by the ‘Resonance’ –If You do Not Get ‘Self-Honest’, oh by god!

Your ‘Living Process’ is gonna be one ‘Living Hell’.

What is ‘Self-Honesty’?
‘Self-Honesty’ is to Not-‘Suppress’ when you go-into a ‘Point’ where you Feel ‘Uncomfortable’ –and also not to ‘Try’ and ‘Change’ the ‘Other Person’ to-‘See’ What ‘You’ are ‘Seeing’, but to get-to the ‘Point’ that is ‘Principle’-based ‘Best for All’ –

If you are Not-‘Clear’ in your ‘Self-Honesty’ and ‘Actually’‘Acting’ in the way that’s ‘Best for All’ = You’re Not-gonna be able to ‘Stand’, it’s Impossible –you’re going to ‘Time-Loop’ and you’re gonna ‘attempt’-to move the information’ in a ‘way’ that: ‘You Win’-

You’ve been ‘Trained’ from ‘Birth’ to ‘Compete’ for One ‘Reason’-only: so that ‘You May ‘Survive’’, because ‘When You ‘Survive’’ = ‘You Win’
But I mean, you’re Not-‘Surviving’ ‘Death’, you’re going-to ‘Die’, you don’t ‘win’ – Ever
All that ‘Happens’ is: You are ‘Postponing’ the Inevitable ‘Awful Truth’:

that You are Not ‘In-Control’ of ‘Your Life’, ‘Something’ ‘Inside’-you is ‘In-Control’ of ‘Your Life’ and that ‘Something’ = You Have ‘Created’- That’s your ‘Resonances’. And you have ‘Created’-it according-to your ‘Environmental’ ‘Symbolism’ as an ‘Inter-active’ ‘Real-time’ ‘Communication-Device’ which through ‘Fuzzy-Logic’ will ‘Assess’ your ‘Environment’ and ‘Present’ as-‘Thoughts’ to-you the ‘Best Choices’ to make so that you can ‘Win’ ‘With’ a ‘Justification’ ‘Why’ You should ‘Make the Choice’ –and None-of-it comes-from you.

And Eventually, due-to all the ‘Uncomfortable Experiences’ you will have when you make the ‘Wrong-Choice’ according-to Your ‘Programming = You will end-up Making the ‘Right Choice’ about your ‘Programming’ and even ‘Believe’ you’ve ‘Made the Choice’.

All the ‘Knowledge’ you have is ‘Useless’, because it’s based-on: ‘Survival’ –it’s Not-based on ‘Life’.

So- this is going to take ‘some years’ to ‘sort’-out – In each case where it’s possible we’ll Assist with ‘How’-to ‘Design an Agreement’ ‘Mathematically’ where it is ‘Possible’ to ‘Face the Resonances’ - because the ‘Resonances’ are Using ‘Mathematics’, it is ‘Exact’ – it isn’t ‘Willy-Nilly’ just coming to ‘Conclusions’, it will take-you to the ‘Ultimate-Point’ where You Will ‘Face’ Your ‘Self-Honesty’ –

You Cannot ‘Manipulate’-it, unless you are ‘Equal’ to-it. And it’s Not going-to ‘Listen’ to you, it’s gonna take-you ‘Regardless’ - to your ‘Demise’ because: It ‘Stands’ as ‘Equality’- which means: ‘What You do to ‘another’, Your ‘Resonance’ is gonna do to ‘You’’ – Your ‘Resonance’ is gonna do-it to You, Not ‘anything’-else.

So- what you’ve already Noticed is: You can ‘Deal’-with a ‘Point’ and you can ‘Place’ the Information and then, within days, this ‘Intense’ ‘Discomfortable’, ‘Uncomfortable’ ‘Experience’ is ‘back’ –you just can’t ‘Commit’-Yourself.

The First-thing you have to Investigate when that happens-is: ‘Are you at the ‘Right Place’? Have you based your ‘Points’ on ‘Actual’-Communication? Have you looked-at the Total-‘Design’? Are you Willing to ‘Walk the Consequences’? Or, Do you have ‘Hidden-Desires’ and ‘Secret-Mind’ stuff?
If you have ‘Hidden-Desires’ and ‘Secret-Mind’-stuff and ‘Back-doors’, I mean - you don’t ‘Close’ those doors= You’re just ‘Fucked’. If the Person then wants to still go into an ‘Agreement’ with you just to be ‘Fucked’-later I mean really theymay do so, but then You can’t be ‘Trusted’, You will Not ‘be given’‘Responsibility’ in Life either, because your whole-life will be a ‘Search for your Satisfaction’ – Everything you do = you’ll Always Fail in

The ‘only-way’ you can be ‘Successful’ then is by Direct-‘Abuse’ of Others –which is ‘why’ you move to ‘Abuse’ ‘Automatically’ when you don’t get Your-‘Way’ –Make sense?

Everybody: Yes

Bernard: Ok, so - very ‘tough times’ in ‘Designing’ ‘Effective’-‘Agreements’ –also your ‘Endeavour’ must-be to ‘Stand’ in ‘Absolute Equality’ within your ‘Agreement’, that means to:

‘Assist’ Each-other to come to an ‘Equal-Expression’.
Where the ‘Point’ is The ‘Point’ that ‘works’ I mean, it is really, really, really ‘Easy’ –there is No-‘Effort’ in ‘Agreement’, it just ‘Flows’‘like a Ship on the Water where the Wind is Always-Perfect’ and it just ‘Moves’ –I mean, isn’t it? It is just ‘Spacious’

You are ‘Simply’, you would say ‘Compatible’- it’s not a matter of ‘Compatibility’, takes still Great-‘Effort’ to Make-sure One ‘Communicate’ –but the ‘Communication’ because it’s ‘Open’ and because it’s Realized-that

I mean, we’re going to-have to ‘Change’, it becomes ‘Easy’. It is When you have a ‘Back-door’, when there-is ‘Secrets’, when there-is ‘Hopes’ for ‘something-else’ in the Future’, where there-is a ‘Judgment’ = that’s where the things really get ‘tough’.

‘Agreements’ that ‘work’ will be ‘hard’ to come by. The Point is Not to just go-into ‘the First Agreement’ that ‘Presents’-itself, incessantly looking-for some form-of ‘Pleasure’ –I mean, that’s the same as entering any ‘Whore-House’ looking for ‘Free Sex’, it’s really what you’re Actually doing, You’re Not-Willing to ‘Pay the Price’ for a Proper ‘Agreement’ by having Some ‘Principles’
If You Have No-‘Principles’ = Don’t ‘Expect’ to Get Anywhere in ‘Process’

The Only-‘Principle’ from ‘My Perspective’ that is ‘Valid’ is: ‘To Do What is Best for All’ –

To ‘Stand’ where ‘It’s Best for All’ and to ‘Arrange’ My Life‘accordingly’, my ‘Agreements’ ‘accordingly’ to that Single-‘Principle’, because I know one thing: If I don’t ‘Do-that’, I will ‘Time-Loop’ and I will ‘Face the Consequences’ of what I Allow -simple as that.

Within-that I look-at that whatever-‘happens’, I must be ‘Functionally’-‘Effective’ –If I’m Not,in that Position ‘Functionally’-‘Effective’, by god I Stop, and I Change
And I know it is for a moment ‘unclear’ what I have to do, but it Will ‘Clarify’, it’s Not ‘The End of the World’ –

What is ‘The End of the World’ is if one go into an ‘Agreement’ where you ‘end-up’ Losing ‘Absolute’ ‘Control’ and go into ‘Anger’ and ‘Harm’ Each-Other –That is Not-‘Acceptable’.

You have-to Understand that these-things are gonna take years. It took your ‘whole lifetime’ to ‘Program’ yourself this way, you are Not going to ‘Solve’-this in a ‘week’ or ‘two’ or a ‘month’ or ‘two’ –this is gonna take minimum from 7 years to 14 years to ‘Solve’ this ‘Problem’ of your ‘Possessed Nature’ –‘that’ which ‘Possess’-you will ‘come-out’ in the Points where ‘You Think’ ‘You’ve got-it-all ‘Under Control’’.

And then, suddenly it’s Proven: you haven’t, because that is‘the Point’ where you are ‘Weakest’, where it is ‘Closest to the End’ = You tend-to ‘Give-in’ meaning: you tend-to ‘Submit’-to Your ‘Experience’, and end-up Not-‘Changing’.

If you’ve already ‘Submitted’ to-it and you didn’t Change = it’s too late, You can’t Change, it’s too late.

Everything you’re going to say, is gonna be a ‘Lie’.
You have to ‘Time-Loop’ because, the ‘Only Time’ this is ‘Valid’ is when it’s ‘Authentic’ and it’s happening in ‘Real Time’ - You Cannot ‘Plan’ the ‘Transcendence of Resonance’, you have-to in ‘Real Time’ ‘Transcend’-it where it is ‘Your Nature’ ‘Transcending’-it, Not Your ‘Mind’ or Your so-called ‘Will’

‘Self-Willed-Equals’ means: You have ‘Designed’-You As ‘Your Nature’ to be ‘Effective’ in Every Breath, ‘Self-Willed’, it doesn’t take Any-‘Effort’ - if it takes ‘Effort’= It’s Not ‘Real’.
If you have to Take ‘Effort’ to ‘Transcend’ = Your ‘Transcendence’ isn’t ‘Real’.

Make sense?

Everyone: Yeah

Bernard: So, we will be Starting with the ‘Mathematical Equations’ of ‘How’ this…All the ‘Variations’ of many, many, many ‘Symbols’ were ‘Designed’, so that you can start ‘working’ on your ‘Designs’.

Understand at this stage though, as you have noticed, when a person is Possessed you now know how that works - you know how it looks like and you know how it feels like – and you have seen that you can’t ‘control’ that, it requires Specific Intervention to help you get through the shit - and that how easy one can fool yourself into believing something when it isn’t Real

‘hope’ is the greatest danger that can exist because it makes you blind – when you make a Statement of yourself – you must make it till Death – you must make it as a Life-Time Statement – if you can’t make it and you cannot find a way to make it - you are not at the ‘right place’.

One can Design ‘temporary Solutions’ but I mean the Solution will fall inevitably – It has become Resonantly so acceptable to go into Agreements – or…Relationships, already knowing that it’s not going to last – it’s going to just be a little ‘path of growth’ and then I’m gonnamove on to the next little ‘patch of growth’ as if You are the only fucker ‘growing’ and the other person is just your Slave.
Have a look at the Implication: ‘I’m going into a relationship and now I’m ‘growing’, the Other one didn’t ‘grow’ and therefore I must leave them to find somebody else so I can ‘grow’’ – So who the Fuck is the abuser about these Fuckers that do this in the name of the ‘light’ and ‘love’ - ‘I’m busy growing’ – but look what they’re really saying: they’re ‘growing’ - the ‘other person’, the partner is not ‘growing’ – Who is causing that? They are Enslaving other people, it’s like bloody parasites and they do it in ‘beautiful words’, it sounds ‘so wonderful’ – I mean, you know: ‘our path has been ‘wonderful’ together, but we’ve‘outgrown’ each other’ – Oh how do you do that? So you went ‘up’ and I went ‘down’ – How did I ‘outgrow’ you? ‘Oh, we just don’t see ‘eye-to-eye’ anymore – ‘oh Fuck’, what happened? We became bigger – oh not closer - so there is no Oneness in this whole ‘growth’ thing – hmm, there’s no Equality – but nobody wants to be Self-Honest – it’s all Self-Interest.

And they sell this ‘shit’ like ‘candy’ as the ‘New-Age-Solutions’ to Existence – and what is being sold? Sweets! All the stuff that tastes ‘nice’: ‘love’ and so on – have a look - you say: ‘Just let’s ‘love’ it together!! Here’s the sweet, boy have this sweet!! This sweet is the Fuckin’ ‘lemonade of the lemon’!! It will last you ‘forever’ and You will be ‘eternally happy!!’ And ‘Oh My God!’,2013 you are Becoming a ‘Great Being’, a ‘Galactic Being’ imagine That!!!‘Oh My God!’ I can’t wait, I can’t wait! Oh HOO HOO! – ‘I can’t wait! I’m peeing in my pants!!!’

Look at the Deception – Why can’t you See the Deception? It’s the same ‘game’ Mum and Dad played – trying to shut you up and say: ‘don’t ask questions, Accept the World it is, here’s a sweet - be happy!’ That’s what the ‘New Age’ that’s what Religion is, that’s what’s Jesus – Jesus is a fucking lolly-pop, suck it and you’re ‘saved’!!

‘My God is Bigger than Yours’ ‘My God speaks to Me! And ‘He’ said!…’
Oh, really? Do you know you are FuckinPossessed

You must live, making sure there is no ‘God’, that is ever needed – because as long as ‘God’ is needed = Humanity cannot be trusted with any Responsibility, because you will always say ‘God, Fuckin help us’ - but you will not help Yourself – Make Sense?

All: Yeah.

Ok, so there’s a lot of work to be done, it’s gonna take years – some of you is required to be in the Matrix to support – whether you will or not, we will find out in the future – There is nothing that is guaranteed, the only thing that is ever clear is who Stands for Life and who doesn’t – We have only one fortunate point :

the Total Key of All Existence, which is Death – at Death everyone knows the ‘Truth’ and the Total Consequence Manifest –The design of Time is simplistically to make sure that one can Trap Yourself in your Deception so that you can See where you are Deceiving, because in Time there is ‘effects’ that you cannot ‘fix’ – that make sure that your bullshit Stops – that’s why Time Exist – because You are Deceptive, in your very Nature –and everyone who postpone shit in Time, you must know you’re lying – make sense?

All: Yeah.

Ok, those that has already gone to extreme points of ‘Resonance Possession’ – Really, walk with the interviews, do your feedbacks, see if you can Transcend – but remember, the moment the point becomes abusive and you are unable to stop the abuse, it is time to Stop.

The moment you cannot treat each other as Equals and Really Care for each other, I mean, it’sgonna be very difficult - you know - Who the fuck wants to live in a situation where somebody is not caring about: getting you to your Greatest Expression, and is only caring about how the fuck ‘they’ feel.
What about helping each other to really get to your Greatest Expression? Is that so difficult? I’m not saying that it’s easy – to Push somebody – to take them beyond anything they could ever believe they could have been, but I mean, it’s Fuckin possible.

So, my Principle is, Hear: Do what’sBest For All - in All Ways - in All Realities – in every way we ever Exist – and no Fuckin one will stand in my way with that – I don’t give a Fuck who agrees with me,because it doesn’t require ‘agreement’, what’s Best For All - - what’s Best For All, is beyond ‘agreement’. It is a Common Sense Reality.

There is no ‘Message’ – there is Reality, of what the Fuck has been Allowed.

Sadly, of the People on Earth Now: A very-small Group will Realize Themselves – A tiny, tiny, minute Group. An even smaller Group, will Stand, to Help Others, to Realize Themselves. Better make up your mind who the Fuck you’re going to Be.

There is no, ‘Great’ ‘Prize’ to be ‘win’…to be ‘won’, for Helping Others – there is no ‘Nice Feeling’ –
There is Securing Your Future, Your next Life, to enter in a Reality, of Your-Own Design – where Everyone Live as Equals. That’s the ‘payoff’ – a payoff you’re not going to see in ‘this-Life’. So you’re gonna need Common Sense because you’re not gonna See the Result. You may See the Result in the ‘small’, in the Agreements you do Dare to enter into.

But I mean, that even is a Fuckin, ‘risk’. So we will continue with the Resonant-Discussions, and the Resonant-Discussions will Only be done to people that visit the Farm, that is doing the Structural Resonance Alignments – Specifically, because through the Structural Resonance Alignments, we will be setting up a much bigger Farm, which will be done by 2013, which will be Focused on –
Leadership Development in the World, Specifically Developing Common Sense Leadership, that will work for Equality for All – where people will come and, learn on the Farm, how to work – with Earth, with Nature, with the Physical, with the Mind, with every Part – the Resonance, Everything, so that they can be Effective Human Beings, that Live with Dignity.

So those that Dare to take part – if you can’t be involved Yourself, you may be able to Help somebody else, or you may be able to Help with the Facilities, to be able to House, or Feed these People, while they’re being Trained.

We will be very Strict in our Selection – who’s gonna be involved in Supporting People – in terms of Leadership in the World. But eventually, at least, on the Farm will be as many as One Hundred Trainers, plus the Trainers that will be Placed World-Wide, that will be Focusing on Preparing: A New Humanity, One who Really Fuckin Care.

Okay, we will release how these things will work, shortly.

Resonant Personality Mutations and Control with feedback - Maya

info@desteni.co.za — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:18:47 +0100

26 January 2010

Hi, I’m Maya

Umm, I’m going to discuss today about the resonance Discussion that I had couple of days ago about what I’ve experienced, about the reaction that I had, umm… what I’m experiencing right now.

Umm, Ok so, basically, there was couple of points in the discussion that came up:
One was how I defined myself according to Maya and according to my environment in Israel and here on the farm.

There other point was, umm… How I’m using… not really using but how I amm experiencing the point of inferiority/superiority with people in my life – how I play this game.

Umm, and the other point was the fear that I think that I’m experiencing in relation to my parents which I basically only used as an excuse to not stand up, to not face myself and not to walk my process unconditionally.

And the forth point was, how I’ve tried to manipulate Maya through umm.. having thoughts of maybe I should be in relationship with her.

So I’ll start with the first one - umm.. so the first point is in relation to my relationship with Maya.
The relationship that I have with her is based on what we agreed on - to support each other in terms of Self-Honesty.

We defined that as being there for each other to uncover our self dishonesties through one each other. Umm.. what we experienced while I was living in Israel were something that I’ve never experienced before, we not only lived together, we also shared… started to have a business together, umm… we had couple of businesses together – one is in relation to process and one is in relation to just make money.

I started to walk this process, not really by myself – I started to walk this process with another friend and I introduced Maya to the process after I realized a bit of what is going on, after I just finished to see the History of Mankind.

And Maya didn’t really umm.. she is more skeptical, she didn’t “buy” it completely as I took it, or “buy” it in the beginning, so I started to push her and push her and push her and at the same time I started to apply myself, started to change myself and once she saw that, she started to apply herself.
Umm… it’s very interesting to look back, at all the things that happened because now I realized that my point in all of this control, superiority, pushing her, using authority.. kind of authority was because I made her a reference point to my change, to my process.

What I did was – I justify myself through her- as long as she see the points that I see, as long as she is agreeing with me, then I can stand and walk in my environment, talk with people, and knowing that I’m “right” because I have another one who says that I’m “right” – it’s not only me that saying that I’m right.

So she was my reference point, she was my security point. She was not only there for me all the time, she was a justification for my fear of the future.

What I did was – I told myself that I’m looking for supporting environment, that I want people in my life that doing the process so it can be easier for me to uncover myself, to uncover myself dishonesties. That it is easy when someone else telling you: “what are you doing?” or saying to you: “Maya, you are in reaction now, look at this point” and when he does it, he does it from a point of support, from a point of equality.

And.. I started to talk about the point that I’m want to create a community, and that I want to have all the people in my life doing the process, and thus, I have to bring more people to Desteni, so I took the point where I was trying to talk as much as I could about Desteni, about process, with everybody, just to have more people in our life.

What I’m seeing during the SRA session that I’m currently dealing with the point of the actual pie in relation to the environment - so in terms of specific types of people that I have in my life, I created a mind construct of – believing that supportive environment is only the ones that agree my beliefs system, basically. I didn’t see that before, I didn’t see that it is only a belief, so what I did was – I pushed away people that didn’t want to see themselves, I pushed away people that didn’t want to apply themselves and to see the point of self dishonesty and I could backup myself because Maya saw that as well and as long as she seeing what I’m seeing – I am safe, I’m not alone, I have her.
I walk this process and everything that I do, that I’ve applied that I realized – I have someone else justifying me. So basically I used her to get the energy that I needed to support the definition that I had about myself, about how I’m walking this process.

This is a very interesting point that I didn’t see before.
Umm.. To realized that I pushed her not from a point of really Self Honesty but through a point of Self-Definition of process. I didn’t walk unconditionally myself because if I couldn’t get her agreed on the same perspective that I thought, then I would doubt myself, and I would bring her to the point where she is realizing the same point that I’m realizing and I didn’t let go when she didn’t agree with me.

We lived together for 6 months and I think that only in the last month she started take herself seriously and take responsibility for herself so before that I was the one that pushed that control, tell her what to do, what to read, what to watch, telling her what Self Forgiveness to apply and I…
It’s amazing – what I did was - I was so fearful for coming to the farm and because I’m in the farm, no one will keep an eye on her so I wanted to push her more before I came here. So I made her decide that she has to “close herself” at home and only do “process” and only apply herself, like I did.

I didn’t see that I was hiding myself from the rest of the world because the rest of the world didn’t agree with me. And the only place that I could be me, “me” is at home and I wanted her at home. I wanted to justify me staying at home and not going to other places because this is how I defined process.

So I made her realize that she has to do the same. And she did, she stayed at home and closed herself at home. I mean, it was a very cool experience for her but the starting point wasn’t really Self Honesty starting point.

What happened was.. umm.. when I left she ummm.. the person that was living instead of me in the apartment was someone that I tried, I pushed so much to do the process. He was with me when I first started to watch the video and I wanted to see that with him and he didn’t really want to. But he was sticking around for 8 month and he said he wanted to live with Maya and do the process and… umm.. before I left, this person was with us many times, I mean, he was almost every day coming to our place and I pushed him and then I just gave up and Maya took my place of pushing him or to show him that he is being self dishonest and then I left and she saw the point that I saw before of how he is manipulating her in discussions and she had to stop, she had to take responsibility because she didn’t have me anymore to stop the conversations to stop the loop conversation that was on and on and on about that same point that he doesn’t want to see so she had to do it.

Then she realized that – ok, I’m not here anymore, I can’t direct her anymore, I can’t support her anymore, she has to take responsibility for herself, and she did. And I knew that this is what she is doing because I was communicating with her from here.

And.. when she posted on the forum I came to the point where I “forgot” that she is standing up now, I “forgot” that she is directing herself now and I tried to control her like I used to do and it’s seems so natural, and after I post what I posted, Darryl came to my room and asked me whether I was too much rough on her and he told me that I’d might attacked her and that I didn’t see the point where she is finally came to the forum and shared herself and this is cool and I justified myself and I told him- “no, this is what she needs, she needs me to push her, she needs me to tell her what to do, she needs to take responsibility and I am the only one that she would listen to.

Ok, so, she.. I saw that point, I mean, after half an hour I wrote another post telling her that it’s very cool that she posted here, but what I didn’t want to see is what I did.

So the next morning I awoke up and I couldn’t see in my right eye, I could see but not normally, I mean, even with glasses, it was depleting intensively and I started to freaked out in away.

It was 5 in the morning and I ran to the other house to see if Sunette or Bernard are there to ask them what the fuck is going on. And Bernard was there and I told him that I don’t see in my right eye. And he asked Me what don’t i want to see? And I told him- “come on, this is obvious, of course that I don’t want to see something, otherwise I wouldn’t lose my sight, but what is the point that I don’t want to see?” And he said “I’m not going to tell you, you have to figure it out by yourself”.

Which was really frustrated.

Then, of course I started to cry, and he asked me if I saw the post that the dimensions wrote in relation to the discussion we had on the forum and I told him that I didn’t and then I realized that I have to look about that because if the dimensions is writing something, i probably did something wrong (* a followup about that point is on the forth video)

I still didn’t want to see that, I focused on.. I mean, I ran back to my room and applied Self Forgiveness on the point where, why I fear losing my sight. I mean, I didn’t even look at the point of Maya.

And then, after a while the internet came back and I saw the point of me trying to control her. Which was not very shocking because I already saw it in away just didn’t want to see that.

So, I lost it. I just lost it.. I started to have a headache and I couldn’t control my headache, I tried to breathe, didn’t help, I even took a medicine for the headache. I went to sleep, awoke up, with headache again, all shaky, crying all the time, couldn’t stop the urge to cry. I was trying to suppress the crying, most of the time I could.

And then, an interesting point came…

I thought – “ok, maybe I’m reacting the way I’m reacting because I don’t want Maya to be in relationship, maybe I want to be in relationship with her. Maybe this is the point that I don’t want to see, maybe what I don’t want to see is that I have sexual thoughts about her, maybe I should be with her.”

Umm.. I went to Sunette and I talked to her about that and she explained me that this is a very common fact that occurring between male/male, female/female close relationship and that she doesn’t see that within me. She also suggested me to look at the point of why I fear that I have this thoughts, I mean, this is obviously not the case but still I have to look at the point where I have fear of being a lesbian.

Umm.. the forth thing that came to my mind is that I fear the reaction of other people like my family, friends, society. I mean lesbian..

So, I went back to my room and I applied Self Forgiveness about the fear of my family and then Sunette came to my room telling me that I have a Resonance discussion.

Umm.. I asked her if she can also bring the resonance for another discussion describing me why I can’t let go of the fear from my family, parents and she said “no, this is a point that you have to deal by yourself, just walk that”.

So the resonance discussion started and for me, it was the first time I saw Sunette going out from her body and another being coming in, and it wasn’t just another being, it was me coming in.
I can’t describe this experience in words just.. umm.. unbelievable to see her going out and me coming in.

Ok, so the first point, as I said, I saw how I defined myself and my process according to her (Maya) and once I didn’t have her here, I went to the opposite side of feeling ‘less then’, ‘unsupported’, ‘alone’, ‘confused’ umm… and when I felt that, what I did was, again, manipulating her and I was well aware that I was manipulating her, in writing her a letter, saying that I feel so alone and that I have no body but her and things like that.

What is interesting is how I get my energy from her when I.. it’s like drugs, I mean, you feel “low” and then you take drugs and you feel “high” again. It’s exactly what I did with her. She gave me the energy that I needed but it’s only energy, so obviously, I can’t support myself, I can’t stand by myself. I didn’t realized that walking process is walking me, is supporting me and the starting point needs to be me supporting me, walking process unconditionally for myself, and not defining myself according to others.. yeah.. so this is a cool point that I saw.

The other point was inferiority/superiority..yeah.. we played this game. We balanced it in a various ways. For example - I was superior in relation to process while she was superior in relation to money. Umm.. she was superior in relation to self expression. And I slowly, slowly, slowly tried to equalized myself but this is another point that I have to work on, I see that now and I’m working on self expression – this is my first video by the way.

Um.. ok the third point is the excuse that I make when I believe that I fear of my parents or the reaction or the consequences of me walking my process and what it will do to my parents.
I only used that as a back door for giving up. I didn’t really wanted to face myself in relation to give up “me” and face me so I can stand equal to everything.

So yeah, this is another big point that I’m walking through. I can only test myself once I’m back in Israel so I can’t really say that this point is over. What I did realized that it is only energy based, it’s not real and it’s got nothing to do with my parents, it’s has only to do with me, to be able to be equal to my parents and not be less than them. Because I’m equal to them.

I think that I covered up all the points that were on the discussion.
We talked about me defining me according to Maya, we talked about superiority/ inferiority game that I’m paying because I basically experience myself as less then everything or inferior to everything and to balance it, I’m trying to be superior in my environment towards Maya and towards other friends that I want to them to walk my.. to walk the process, to walk MY process instead of letting them walk their own process. I tried to justify myself according to them, to get my energy from them, to justify myself Honesty through them.

So, another point was the sexual thoughts I had towards Maya, trying to manipulating her through having a relationship with her, so I can control her and keep her in the same level as I am and basically, not letting her change or stand by her own, because I know that the one point that she didn’t apply was self directiveness and I was playing with that. I mean, this is the one point she had to walk and once she did I “lost it” because then she doesn’t need me anymore, she could leave me and everything.. I’m by myself. I don’t have “future security”, I don’t have a “home” to go back to, I don’t have “energy support” that I got from her so I tried to find another way to “save” her in my life, to control her in my life.

So this is another thing that I tried to do. Which is amazing because… umm.. I know that I’m attracted to man but I was willing to forget about that or to suppress myself to the point where “I don’t care, all I won’t is her and I’ll do whatever it takes to keep her under my supervision”.

Umm, the forth point is that I’m still looking at the excuse that I’m making as fears towards my family, parents so I could hide behind and not really take the responsibility and change for what is best for all and to walk my process unconditionally.

This is only fear that has nothing to do with them and I deliberately tried to blame them, try to avoid them which doesn’t make any sense, instead of being equal to them instead of standing as who I am – I’m trying to hide, I’m trying to make an excuses so I won’t have to stand up. And this is not acceptable.

It was very interesting to realize that the fear that I’m experiencing all the time is not really fear but an excuse, that the fear is only energy and it’s not who I am.

And I’m not allowing myself to be directed anymore according to this fear which is not real and I’m equal to my parents. That’s simple.

Ok, so this was my feedback about the resonance discussion that I had.

I am very grateful for the opportunity to talk with myself as a resonance and now again hear myself and go through the point where I didn’t want to do videos because I believed that I didn’t have the confidence to do that and that is something that I wanted to do for a long long long time and I really glad that I just walked through that and did the video so I could hear myself.
And I hope it also can assists you guys, so this is me. Bye

A Followup:

Hi this is Maya again.

I’m here because I just heard my video and I realized that I’m still participating in the polarity of “right and wrong” because I experience myself as less than the Dimensions.

What I’m talking about is the… where I told the story of how I thought that I did something wrong when the dimension wrote something about my post instead of realizing that there is not such a thing as good or wrong, all that exists is ‘Consequences’.

So, I applied Self Forgiveness about that point, I realized that I’m equal to the dimension, to the information that was presented.

So this is another cool point in making videos to be able to see yourself, hear yourself and then correct yourself.

So, thanks. And Bye.

Resonant Sibling Play-Outs – Maite & Leila

info@desteni.co.za — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:16:07 +0100

25 January 2010

Resonances: Okay, this is Maite and Leila’s Resonances. This is with regards to a particular point which we’ll refer to as the ‘Sibling Construct’.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: Okay. But this point in particular in relation to the two of you - is your brother Gabriel. Okay?

So we’ve got Leila, Maite, Gabriel – all right? [drawing]

Now, what’s quite interesting – let’s maybe first start with ‘Why’ we’re doing this particular interview – is that: when Gabriel left, the two of you went through interesting definitive Behavioural Changes, which was very prominent and very noticeable by us.

Resonances: Have you noticed it?

Maite: I haven’t noticed it.

Leila: No.

Resonances: Okay. So – we’ll show you what happened, the difference between ‘when he was here’ and ‘when he was away’.

Maite & Leila: Okay.

Resonances: Now, what this cause in terms of your ‘Individual Worlds’ and your experiences is that it influences underlyingly.

Maite & Leila: Okay.

Resonances: In other words, in terms of for example we did the interview with you and Gian wherein you found, like, points of irritation and agitation coming up inside you towards him, in certain situations and experiences.

Leila: Ya.

Resonances: Those agitations and irritations is actually related to yourself in relation to Gabriel.

Leila: Okay.

Resonances: Okay?

Maite – yours didn’t or do not affect your world as much as it actually affects you. In other words, you don’t reflect it towards LJ. It influences your ‘Internal Behaviour’. Because, if you have a look, Leila is more the ‘Extrovert’, you’re more the ‘Introvert’.

Maite: Ya.

Resonances: So, you would express yourself extrovertly, ‘exert’ yourself outward – and you will ‘invert’ in yourself. So, you have: you are ‘Extrovert’ and you are ‘Introvert’.

Leila: When did that change?

Maite: That didn’t change.

Resonances: You are outward and you’ll invert/inward.

Now – the noticeable Behavioural Changes that happened was as follows: While Gabriel was here – okay – we had Leila being in a relatively more, let’s say, ‘Expressive’, ‘Intense’ - Way of Being – especially with other beings. You were more ‘Noticeable’ in your expression. It is like an intensity that was within you within everything that you would normally do, how you’d normally be – but it would be a slight bit more heightened – your ‘Frequency’ of your ‘Expression’ was a bit more ‘way up there’. It was if you were walking on a certain ‘Level of Frequency’. You were the same in everything that you do, but it was just more... intense.

Leila: Okay.

Resonances: Maite –

Leila: The opposite.

Resonances: Yes. Maite became more extracted. You were less seen, much more in your room, kind of ‘Disappearing’ in the Participation within Everything and Everyone on the Farm. It was almost like your Presence was ‘Non-Existent’.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: So – Leila went into being noticeable. Maite went into being non-existent.

Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: When Gabriel left, what happened was Leila had mood-swings – points of Irritation and Agitation in terms of her ‘World’ and her ‘Environment’ – ‘Triggered’ her more quickly – therefore her Moods were more ‘Intense’- Equal to the intensity her expression was Extrovertly while Gabriel was here.

Maite became more Bubbly and Expressive and again ‘Emerged’ from her ‘Cave’.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)
Resonances: And laughing again, much more. Leila’s face went kind of all sour. Okay? You noticed?

Leila: Ya.

Resonances: You’re kind of seeing it slightly?

Maite: Yeah – I saw the change from – that kind of ‘uplifting’, but I didn’t see it in relation to Gabriel.

Leila: Yeah, I didn’t see the ‘big connection’.

Resonances: Okay, so – now you’ve got to look at: Why.
So – you have Gabriel, Leila, Maite [drawing] – we’re gonna start with Maite.

Okay, Maite – the reason Why for example you went into Experiencing yourself as ‘Non-Existent’, retracting yourself from Participation with other beings and things like that – is: you have a, you’ve got like a ‘Management System’ inside you. In which you kind of ‘Submerge yourself’ into the Background trying to ‘manage’ Gabriel through ‘Keeping an Eye on him’.

Maite: Yeah, that makes sense.

Resonances: So you’re whole world for that moment while Gabriel was here, was kind of in..Anxiety,

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: Wanting to ‘Keep an Eye on him’ and manage him through going into a ‘submerged’ kind of like a ‘Observer View-Point’ – like a ‘Presence’ for him, to keep an eye on him, to keep him in such a way ‘in place’. But you kind of – therefore you as who you are disappeared, because you then stepped into just a ‘Presence Mode’ and you ‘zoned-in’ into that ‘beingness of yourself’ and you just made sure that he remains in place. It’s kind of you took in a position to keep him in position -

Maite: Yeah, that makes sense.

Resonances: Resonantly.

Leila: Now I see like – a lot like how it was at home as well.

Resonances: Yeah, we’ll get to that – why that happens.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: That’s one dimension of that – okay?

Leila – on the other hand, in her ‘Expressive Way of Being’, she feels that she sometimes when Communicating or Participating with Gabriel, compromised herself, in conversation or in your way of being towards him - In other words, wherein you could for a very finite moment See that whatever you’re doing in ‘your way of being towards him’, talking, participating = that you are supporting his Mind Consciousness System Idea, Design, Manifestation and so will you, yours – meaning: you go into a ‘Compromise-Relationship’ with him.

Leila: Okay.

Resonances: Wherein you know that you were dishonest towards yourself and towards him.

Leila: Ya, okay.

Resonances: And then that manifested Guilt. In that Guilt, you created the ‘Agitation’ and the ‘Irritation’ towards yourself.

Leila: Okay, ya – makes sense now.

Resonances: It’s like when, after you’ve been with him, you feel shitty. It’s like...

Leila: ... something was not...

Resonances: ‘right’, ‘in place’. Maybe, in the moment you enjoyed it in the moment for that moment – but not Real Enjoyment, it was just – you ‘Lost yourself’ for a moment there –

Leila: Yea.

Resonances: and then you come out of it again and you go ‘Oh – where was I, what did I do?’.

Leila: Even, like, in it – I’m doing it and it’s like ‘what am I doing now?’ – but I just continued, ‘cause it was like...

Resonances: You must listen to those experiences where you start becoming Uncomfortable, Physically. You’ve got to Stop, you’ve got to See:
Is this uncomfortability a point of resistance?
Is this a point of dishonesty within myself?
How is my participation here?
what’s my words, am I here, am I breathing,
Am I speaking directly as I would speak to anyone else?
Am I speaking or communicating or being with him in a certain way just because he’s my brother?
Am I going into wanting to feed a memory of our Past-Experiences of being three siblings, a family, wanting that energy again... -
You understand how to look at it?

Leila: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay – Now, that’s the most ‘Core Platform-Point’ of what’s Happened in terms of the ‘Difference’ and how it’s currently influencing your experience. Because now, that agitation and irritation you’re reflecting towards Gian, that is influencing you to not direct Gian effectively. Because you’re in the background still dealing with this [pointing at drawing]. It’s where you haven’t been able to, when Gian comes at you, kind of ‘Stand’ and ‘Direct’. He ‘enticed’ this point – the agitation and irritation – so it’s coming out so you can See-it. That’s why he’s ‘played’ that position for a moment where he irritates and agitates you for something.

Leila & Maite: (Laughing)

Resonances: Slightly. You must be very – you’re at a stage now, Leila, where your reactions are very fine, meaning: there’s moments where you’ll go “Bff” – like this, just like a vibration, a very quick, fine vibration – especially with Gian sometimes, you’ve got to observe that. Because you still build those moments and then you get to a day where it’s just a ‘Fucked-up-day’.

Leila: Ya, ya, I see that.

Resonances: It’s very, very fine. You’ll feel it –

Leila: Like a little breeze of vibration.

Resonances: You’ll feel it like here underneath your ribs, you’ll go – and just where your chest is, where your breasts end in the centre, right there – you’ll feel it’ll like vibrate, very slightly – you have to be Aware of Yourself in Breath.

Leila: Yeah (Laughing)

Resonances: You’ll sometimes. Where does it often happen is where he does these – like a movement – he does certain very ‘Sharp Movements’ with his Body.

Leila: Oh – oh ya.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Leila: I always think he’s going to slap me.

Resonances: That causes a “Vwf” -

Leila: Ya.

Resonances: Vibration inside you.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: But if you have a look: Why is that happening? If you have a look at his Movements, Physically – it’s Direct, it’s like ‘Straight’.

Leila: Ya.

Resonances: To the point – Here, Here, Here, Here, Here. So – but that he’s practised in ‘Physically Grounded’ with the work on the Farm already.

Leila: Ya.

Resonances: He hasn’t yet Manifested that into his ‘Beingness’. But remember, it first happens through you Living an Application and then through the Living you Become-it Equal and One. But you have to take that step of Living-it. So that Direction is – he’s showing you ‘Physically’ who you must be to Assist and Support yourself and him within the Agreement.

Leila: Yeah, okay.

Resonances: See how that play-out’s working? Okay.
Maite – more Detail in terms of ‘Why’ you go into a ‘Submissive-role’ with Gabriel.

Leila: It’s a lot of information.

Resonances: You can listen to it again, but you are following it so far, though?

Leila & Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: I know I’m moving one Point and you Integrate-it, you Understand-it and you Move-on to the Next. So, afterwards you can listen to it in more detail again and I’m certain more points will open-up. If you’re seeing how I move and you’re staying with me with every point, it’s fine.

Leila & Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: You don’t have to try and go into your Mind now to ‘Remember’. You’ve got it in the Moment, you know you’ve got it, so if you have any questions afterward we can discuss them. Or even – once you’ve listened to it again. But realize that in the Moment you’ve got it – you’re Here, You see it and that’s it and you let it go.

So now the Submission.
You feel Responsible for Gabriel’s actions. Okay? So you’re also, quite interestingly enough, in a Manifestation of Guilt,

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: just in a different way.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: So you both are existing within ‘Guilt’. You from the sense of Self-Compromise and you from the sense of ‘Believing you’ve Compromised-him’.

Maite: Ya.

Resonances: Okay. From the perspective that – and it’s not defined – meaning: it’s almost like this ‘Natural Born Instinct’ that’s Manifested within you of ‘you believing that you are responsible for Gabriel’s life’. And whatever ‘he does’ or ‘does not do’ = you are Directly-Responsible for that.

Maite: Okay.

Resonances: Now, so what Gabriel has been through within his life up to this point here of ‘Who’ and ‘How’ he is – you felt Directly-Responsible. You felt now you’ve got to manage him

Maite: ... to deal with that.

Resonances: ... to ‘Rectify’ what ‘You Believed you have Done unto him’.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay? Within that as well, the reason why you went into that ‘submission’, ‘submerged’ Background-Role, kind of disappearing - is because you felt embarrassed by Gabriel. Embarrassment from the Perspective of: ‘You wanted to make sure that he doesn’t create or instigate havoc again within his... in relation to his past experiences, that might ‘threaten’ you and Leila’s place or position here on the Farm.’ So, you took in the position of keeping a very sharp eye to make sure that you secure your place here, that he doesn’t mock up your life.

Maite: Yeah, that makes sense.

Resonances: Okay. So, those are the Primary-Points that you guys have to look at in relation to your relationship with Gabriel.
You from the Perspective of ‘Guilt’ of ‘Self-Compromise’.
You from the Perspective of ‘Guilt’ of ‘Believing that you were Entirely-Responsible for Gabriel’s life’ and that you were ‘the cause’ for ‘why’ he is ‘who’ and ‘how’ he is. In the greater perspective, resonantly, that point do exist, in terms of – there is much more that we could do in moments.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: Where, if we look back at our lives, we see moments where we could’ve been more Direct, where we could’ve been more Straightforward, more Frank about certain points that, wherein we allowed fear to interject.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: But now realize that the Past we cannot do anything about. There is no Reason to Exist in Guilt because of those points. The only Gift that we can Give ourselves within this Experience is to Learn From-that.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: And make that Definitive Decision of being frank – frank, direct and straightforward. ‘Cause you girls have that ‘Ability’ within you to be that, it’s only – it’s kind of like – it’s something that you Develop, wherein you start – initially you have to first walk through the ‘Fear of Being Straightforward’, Direct and Frank and within that fear you sometimes make mistakes where the ‘Penetration’ in relation to the being is a bit ‘Extensive’ and then you start ‘Shaping’ your Directness, Straightforwardness and Frankness and take into consideration the being. And then you start developing ‘where’ and ‘how’ you can ‘throw-in’ those sharp points, you know, like really open up points.

But that only also comes in when you realise there’s a Responsibility within-that Expression.

Maite: Ya.

Resonances: When you open up a point, you’ve got to Walk the being through that point With the being until it comes to a point of Solution. It’s not – you don’t just say something and then leave-it. You always make sure that You take Responsibility for your Words and the Consequences your Words have within your World as You.
Does that make sense?

Maite & Leila: Ya.

Resonances: And that’s what you both still have to ‘step-into’ and ‘embrace’ – is that whole point, but it’ll start developing more naturally – okay.

So – how this play-out happens in terms of siblings is:
Usually when you have three children, the one child will take the role of ‘Matriarch’ and the ‘Patriarch’ – meaning: The Mother and The Father – and the two others will be ‘Siblings’. Okay? When you for example have two children, same thing happens: the one goes into the ‘Dominant-role’, the other one into the ‘Submissive-role’. That’s the whole Construct of the Family; you have Dominance and Submission with the kids. And then the children play-out the whole Family Construct, which is them and the parents which Manifest – it’s quite fucked up. When you have for example one child – the one child will either go to two extremes, which will be: a Dominant-role within their group of friends or a very Submissive-role within their group of friends; a ‘Loner’ or a ‘Popular Person’. That’s how that play-out happens.

Now – with Gabriel, he took in the role of ‘Mother and Father’, the two of you – so then, within him standing in that Position, the two of you Manifested as ‘Opposites’, which is the ‘Extrovert’ and the ‘Introvert’. Here you have [family with 2 children:] Extrovert and Introvert – [family with one child:] Extrovert or Introvert. That’s how the Design always played-out.

Okay, so even within that, I suggest you both work with that Self-Definition of being ‘Extrovert’ or ‘Introvert’, just – apply Self-Forgiveness on both.

Maite & Leila: Yeah.

Resonances: Because even though you’re an Extrovert, you’re also an Introvert within yourself – meaning: you don’t easily Share.

Leila: I never saw myself as ‘an Extrovert’.

Resonances: Well, if you ask anyone on the Farm – they’d define you as an extrovert.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Leila: Okay – I was just looking at school-experiences.

Resonances: I’m talking Now – Right Now. Yes, you’re an Introvert within yourself, meaning: you won’t easily Share stuff – yet, you’re Extrovert within your Behaviour.

Leila: Okay.

Resonances: You’re Introvert in your Behaviour – yet, you’re Extrovert in your Sharing. But what you’re living out is the Dynamics that happens in the whole Family/Sibling Construct.

So, now what happened in terms of one aspect – meaning: One-Dimensional Perspective in terms of ‘Why’ Gabriel went through that experience that he did, particularly when the three of you started participating within Desteni – because his, in terms of a Sibling Design, his position had a ‘Purpose’, which is the two of you – kind of holding that position of managing the two of you within your experience – there was a ‘sense’ of stability the two of you experienced with him.

Leila & Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: Then what happens is both of you went on your ‘Path of Independence’ so to speak. Both became independent.

Maite: The children go away.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: Yes. You left the parents. Now, the parents is Gabriel – he didn’t have any Purpose, he didn’t have any Reason anymore. That’s what he started feeling, that’s why he went into depression, extremely so – even more extensively than all the previous times. Because now he felt – now this is all Resonantly, Unconsciously – that he lost his ‘Purpose’, that he lost his ‘Reason in his Life’. And he didn’t know how to direct himself for himself, because his Direction as ‘Purpose’ as ‘Reason’ was defined according to the two of you. So, his Whole World in essence collapsed, his whole Mind Consciousness System Design in terms of taking that Role within the Sibling Construct, was gone – because the two of you did not relate to him the same as you did before –

Maite & Leila: Ya.

Resonances: or even Resonantly ‘Resonate’ the same as you did before. So – that makes sense how he and why he had to go through those experiences?

Leila & Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: And then Bernard interjected to assist him with giving him a ‘Window of Opportunity’ through which he could Stand and Direct himself to find his Own ‘Purpose’ and ‘Reason’ so to speak – for himself, for his own life again. So that he can stand on his own two feet. It might be a bit difficult, but just to give you an experience of where he’s at at the moment – and where the two of you are. Okay?

Leila: Ya.

Resonances: It’s a lot of stuff.

Maite: Just, like, imagine that we would have stayed always in the same triangle, that would be worse.

Resonances: You know, it’s like – even with the whole Family Construct for example, the parents influence the children to such an extent that the children cannot be ‘Individual’ within their ‘Expression’. Therefore, mostly, the best thing for parents to do is to let their children live independently in the world to have their own experiences so to speak.

Because, otherwise – the parents have a ‘hold’ on the children the whole time. I mean – luckily for the two of you even, you grew up independently from your parents, you didn’t have a ‘Close Connection/Relationship’ with them, which allowed you to Discover-yourself so to speak.

So, with Gabriel it’s the same point now. He has to kind of ‘Go’, for the two of you to develop yourself, because you can see, still – in what I described now during this interview – how he’s still influencing you, how you’re still influencing him. He couldn’t walk his path, because you were still Holding that Position for him to be ‘how he believed himself to be’. Okay?

So – now, he’s on his path, you guys are here, so you guys can sort your stuff out, you can be in a more ‘Directive-role’ within yourself to live as an example for him. And then he’s walking the same thing, just in a more ‘Experienced World Matrix’-Way. So, you’ve got...

Everyone will get to the same Point – just in different ways – dependant also on your Individual Acceptances and Allowance, which is your ‘Consequence’ of Who you Are. This is all determining ‘how’ you walk your process and ‘how’ you’ll experience it –so it is all determined within who you are – each is Individually-Responsible.

Okay? That’s how it works.

Leila & Maite: (Laughing)

Resonances: So now just – just go to the point again, you’ll see how you’re still playing the Sibling-Role – get that whole Construct out. Also the Extrovert/Introvert is more a ‘Personal’ thing for the two of you – otherwise you’re playing it off even Resonantly within being Sisters.

It’s not so extensively, it’s already moved very much out – it’s now just a ‘Personal Manifestation’ at the moment.

Leila: ‘Cause I could see, like, going into that mode, what I found was the easiest way to make him ‘feel more at ease’ – so that’s what I would do, like suddenly jump into that role I did to make him feel more at ease type of thing.

Resonances: Well, you see, that’s how he tends to Manipulate.

Leila: Yeah. Oh – say that again?

Resonances: That’s how he’d Manipulate. In other words, he’d go into a certain experience Deliberately – you’d go in to make him feel better, meaning: he’s kind of like a vampire luring you in, saying ‘give me energy’ – so by you wanting to make him ‘feel better’ – you’re giving him energy.

Leila: Okay, ya.

Resonances: And then you Diminish. You feel Shitty. And then you get angry and irritated at yourself –

Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: Because you kind of know what you did, but you feel it more.

Leila: It’s like self-betrayal.

Resonances: Ya.

Leila: Okay.

Resonances: Any questions?

Maite: Not at this point – I’ll listen to it again to see if anything comes up.

Leila: I can’t imagine what’s going to happen once our parents will be here.

Resonances: What?

Leila: Like, what’s gonna open up when both of our parents is gonna be here.

Resonances: It’s not – remember, in terms of, with your family – let me just see – it’s not so extensive, I mean: in terms of how you are with your mother is quite direct, because she’s already ‘standing by herself’ so to speak and you didn’t have an intimate relationship with your father, so there’s not ‘too much’ stuff. Most of it, you’ve already Seen and Walked Through. This point, in terms of your Actual Physical Behavioural change when Gabriel was here and not, that you hadn’t dealt with yet. The other stuff is more, ‘internal’, ‘emotional’ mind-stuff. Because later in life, your parents were kind of replaced with Gabriel.

Maite: Sorry, say that again.

Resonances: Your parents were replaced with Gabriel.

Maite & Leila: Oh ya.

Resonances: So therefore he became now your more, your ‘Physical Walking Process’ that you’ve got to Walk-Through, because He became the primary point in your life. And your parents moved kind of to the background.

Leila: That’s quite clear.

Resonances: You see, Gabriel is quite on his way now, I mean – in terms of: the parents point is out of the way – you’re now with this, will start to stand independently, which will resonantly assist and support him to be able to stand – or... he’ll have to force himself to stand. Meaning: it will go – he’ll determine it for himself. But you guys can, just be yourselves, who you are – be Self-Honest, that’s all that’s required, always – you don’t need to do anything for anyone, whatever is required to be said or done is always here in the moment, in self-honesty.

So, don’t worry so much, Maite.

Maite: Yeah, I was mostly when he was here. It’s like, when I would see him in the kitchen, there was immediately anxiety and it was like – like having to pay attention to everything I do, what I say to not influence him, or not cause anything.

Resonances: Yeah, you created him like a ‘Porcelain Doll’ almost.

Maite: Yeah.

Resonances: It’s all part of the point of wanting to keep him in ‘Maintenance’, ‘Maintaining’, not to say or do anything wrong – ya – like, that might...

Maite & Resonances: ...cause something.

Resonances: Ya – that would ‘alter’ your experience here and Inadvertently, you both kind of wanted to make sure that he remains just in a point of ‘okayness’ – not to cause any shit.

Maite & Leila: (Laughing)

Resonances: It’s quite interesting – okay.

Comfortable Effective Resonant Agreement Feedback – Marlen & Jorn

info@desteni.co.za — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:12:18 +0100

23 January 2010

Resonances: Ok this is Marlen and Jorn’s Resonances

So what we’re gonna be discussing is the… referred to it as the Primary Points within Yourselves that is Currently at a Prominent point of Focus within Yourselves at a Resonant Level which would be basically that which is Currently Influencing Yourself, the Experience of Yourself, Your World of which you’re not Consciously Aware because you’re Actually Living it-out Physically –yet it is Creating or Causing Events and Experiences within Yourselves in your World, the Experience of your Agreement and so what we’re gonna do is we’re gonna discuss them, you know bring them out to plain…into plain sight so you can Understand why it is that you’re experiencing Yourself where you are and ‘How’ - from that ‘Why’- the things are Manifesting as they are, makes sense?

Jorn/Marlen: Yes

Resonances: Ok, so – we’ve currently got Marlen and Jorn ok –

So, first – I’d say this time let’s do it a bit differently see how you guys are doing Alright so my question to both but I’ll first ask Marlen is How are You Currently within your Relationship/Agreement

Marlen: Cool, I found it very supportive, extremely in terms of Actually Facing Myself in the Patterns that I wasn’t really aware of and – and in that moment when for example when we discuss it, and it comes out I’m able to completely See what I’m doing, what I’m ‘playing out’ – I mean that moment I Direct it and it’s like Supportive in that Moment and from that perspective is very cool. And also I mean, enjoying it, really cool.

Resonances: which is just Here

Marlen: yeah

Resonances: it’s easy, simple

Marlen: yeah comfortable, I mean the – basically the‘getting together’ is very easy, living together has been very easy, I never really experience any form of ‘confrontation’ in terms of having someone now living with me or anything, it was like ‘there’ and very simple in that perspective

Resonances: Ok

Marlen: Yeah, I mean it’s been quite cool really

Resonances: Ok - Jorn

Jorn: Yeah I’m also enjoying the Agreement that’s for sure I mean, we’re just relaxed and here when we’re together we don’t have much friction or that, but for example I can see points where I can take, where- which I can Correct or Improve myself which is for example she is kind of ‘Neat’ in many ways and I still have like a ‘chaotic way’ of like you know, ‘put it over there and whatever’ – so those things is then I ask myself like: ‘Ok, am I Supporting her or am I just, you know, continuing my own ‘way’ of doing things or am I actually looking at ‘Ok, am I Supporting her, am I With her in this Point or am I just going, yeah like ‘against the stream’ so to speak. So that’s a point that I can See which I can Improve to become more Structured in a way

Resonances: well just, meaning by Support is just come Realizing you’ve Consider Another now, not only yourself

Jorn: Right, yeah that’s one point – so that’s more on like an ‘Organization Level’ yeah to consider all points - and that’s also what I’m working with within the ‘Pie’

Resonances: Oh ok

Jorn: Which comes up a lot

Resonances: Ok

Jorn: But - yeah we have been able to ‘Open up’ Subjects and what we Experience

Resonances: Yeah

Marlen: Definitely

Jorn: and she also confronted me in some things that I’ve ‘played out’ and we discussed it openly so that is definitely supportive, so that’s very cool.

Resonances: So what you say in terms of both of you that the Basis of your Agreement in terms of what you’ve… kind of Communicated and are Actually Living is
Point 1: Communication – Open Communication

Marlen: Yeah, to the point.

Resonance: Like Open Direct Communication

Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: from Both Sides

Jorn: Yeah

Resonances: Point 2 that within that Communication, you do an Immediate Self Evaluation and Correction

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: Both of you take that Step

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: and that’s the point of: We open this thing up - We Communicate about it - We See What’s the Point - what we’re Accepting and Allowing - How am I going to Correct Myself within this

Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: Alright. Point 3 is within that Living Supporting Each Other –I mean when you for example See something ‘replay’ again, something come-up again do you guys Assist Each Other in that way

Jorn: Definitely

Resonances: Pointing it out, now so you’ve got your Platform of your Agreement quite well established within that both of you are currently Extremely Comfortable – I mean there’s not many unnecessary ‘rifts’ like constantly happening where you for a day or for a week are mad or angry at each other

Jorn/Marlen: No

Resonances: I mean, you Confront the Point, you Sort it out and you Walk again –simplicity

Jorn: yeah

Resonances: That’s very Valuable in terms of within the Experience of your Agreement, because these are the Three Steps, Three main Platform Steps that are Required –let’s call it that- ‘Principles’ within which you Live, especially when you’re Walking within the Agreement from the beginning. Within that, your Experience within the Agreement will be so much easier, ok? So I’d say both we’re quite satisfied with the Agreement itself and the Experiences of you both within that, it’s not an Issue

Marlen: not at all

Resonances: No. Ok, however what is quite interesting within both of you is that You have a tendency to go into let’s call it ‘The Zone’ ok? Now this ‘zone’ is got, it’s got… quite like an interesting ‘Frequency’ to it where you almost like… you’re Here and you are ‘Just Here’ that’s kind of it, it’s like you’re ‘floating in water’ in a way and, you’re just ‘floating on the stream’ that’s going in no particular direction, you’re just kind of ‘flowing’, ‘floating’. So at the moment both of you are in that ‘State of Being’ of just kind of ‘floating’ and you’re ‘zoning-in’ that ‘floating’ experience, it’s like… something is Required to kind of – dare I say make Life a bit more ‘Exciting’ makes sense?

Marlen: yeah

Jorn: I see what you mean

Resonances: Because I mean I understand that in terms of the Experience that you’re having inside yourself it seems like it’s it feels ‘quiet’, it feels like you know ‘nothing’s wrong’ and ‘everything’s fine’ and ‘everything’s ok’-however that Experience Currently in which you’re In is more Energy-based than an Actual Silence of Self, Equal and One –Now this both into this ‘state of experience’ when you’re waiting for something, does that make sense?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: so both of you are Currently in a Manifested ‘Waiting’ position, ok?

Marlen: yeah

Resonances: I would say to be Careful of going into the Experience of Acceptance from the perspective wherein you Accept Yourself and Your World ‘the way it is’ and then, within that Acceptance wanting to keep it that way –then you become that Acceptance and both keep their Reality in themselves in a certain state of ‘Frequency’ and then nothing changes, nothing happens and both and yourself and your world just ‘stays the same’-then within that what happens is you literally ‘Close yourself off’ from all the changes that are constantly happening within Existence and then you basically literally Enclose yourself into a Reality, you remain in the same Frequency or State, your World remains in the same Frequency or State, there’s no Self Movement, there’s no Self Direction, there’s no Self Expansion, there’s no Actual Participation within All the changes that’s happening in Existence, does that make sense?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: So –why are you Currently in this ‘State of Being’ –I mean it’s quite interesting, you’re both now at the Same Point in your Process in terms of Physical Self Movement where nothing is going to be ‘coming to you’ anymore, you have now got to Decide ‘What am I going to do with Me within this Reality, within Considering All Equally as One’

Jorn: yeah

Resonances: How can I Contribute ‘Me’ so to speak and within that Self
Contribution in terms of your Experience, you will find challenges, other people and… make ‘new connections’ so to speak and within that you’ll start Expanding You, because You are now Expanding Yourself Physically into your Reality with other people –within that Physical Step of ‘Self Expansion’ the ‘Inner Self Expansion’ happens, does that make sense?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: So you both had now, I mean this is How Agreements Essentially work, how in terms of: you first establish ‘Your World’ meaning make sure ‘your world’ is Stable –which you say your world is stable, both of you

Jorn:Yeah

Resonances: Marlen?

Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: Ok, within that you’re Stable - meaning Stability, what is Stability? Stability means a Point comes up, an Experience comes up, an Event takes place –yes you have all the things that happen within you, but your Self Stability is your Self Trust that ‘this Point I will Direct within Myself’

Marlen: Yes

Resonances: So, you’re Stable within ‘Who you are’ basically in what you will Accept and Allow and what not.
Now, in terms of Agreements that is the Core Point of Agreement is to Stabilize Yourself, your World into a point of Self Trust and, the ‘Agreed Trust’ between Each Other to Support Each Other no matter what. Then, once that happens you Expand Yourself Individually –yet together- out into the World. Within that you have your Experiences again or your Challenges that happens and your Inner Experiences and you Communicated/Sorted out again, Direct Yourself and go out again –so it’s like a literal Breath that starts busy happening, and then that Breath becomes bigger and bigger as it expands from your World and you Pull Everything ‘In’ and you ‘Breathe it out’ again and you take the world on again –and you Breathe, all your Experiences ‘In’ again which you come back to each other and Communicate and you Expand Yourself, you Breathe your Realizations ‘Out’ again –it’s very fascinating how it works.

Resonances: Does all that make sense so far?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: So now, you both have got to decide what Challenges are you gonna take on in the World, how and what can you do that will Challenge you and at the same time Expand you to Move, because you need to Move at a Physical Level right now because, if you continue existing in this state, you’ll Actually start ‘diminishing’ meaning, it hasn’t yet manifested physically – I see participation in terms of with beings on forum and things like that, writing comments is still quite leveled, quite the same – however there’s a experience coming through of it being more ‘difficult’ to Discipline Yourself to Actually ‘go for it’ and ‘do it’ in, on a Unconditional Level of ‘It’s Here, I am capable of Assisting and Supporting, let me simply do it’ – it’s now coming like ‘Agh, Ok I have to do it now’ and then within that what happens is you start ‘giving into’ that Experience more and more and more, will start participating less with beings and then Self Diminishment Happens, ok?

Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: So, to watch out for that point where you become ‘too Comfortable’ within the Experience of Yourself in your World and then you go into a State of ‘Frequency’ of just ‘flowing’ and ‘floating’ kind of in your World, in your Reality where you want to keep everything kind of in a ‘Safe Haven’ of the Accepted Norm of ‘How it is’ because everything is ‘ok and fine’ but Realize if you step out in to the World = Everything’s Not ‘Ok and Fine’, meaning I’m not saying that you have to make your World equal to the world out there, I’m saying be aware that there is still an Existence out there.
In terms of your Agreement, in you world yes it becomes like a ‘Safe Haven’ so to speak for when things get ‘too tough’ when you’re kind of ‘out there’ and Challenging Yourself and Working with other people and you just, Breathe in again a bit like, you just retreat it for a moment and then you Breathe out again, I’ve sorted myself out, I’m ready, I can walk out again – Now, I’m not saying Physical walk out in terms of ‘traveling’ – it’s in the participation with other beings, working on Projects, seeing what talents you have that you can Expand upon and go into with Other People, what can you Arrange, what can you start, makes sense?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: Yeah, so we’ve gotta get you out of this Frequency State of Acceptance, get you Out into Challenging Yourselves with Other People, makes sense?

Marlen: Yeah

Jorn: Yeah it does

Resonances: Your Agreement, your world in terms of how you’ve lived so far is quite Established and we’re satisfied, you’re satisfied, I mean you’re ready to take on Challenges because You Know that whatever I’m gonna Experience I can come back here to Sort myself out first, I can Communicate it Directly, I’ve got my Support, will ‘throw me back to Myself’ so to speak so I can See Myself, I Will Stand up, I will Immediately Direct and then Immediately go back to that point and make sure that I’ve Actually Corrected Myself Physically.

Marlen: Yeah

Jorn: Yes, that makes sense

Resonances: Ok, so – Now there’s two ways that you can make life more ‘exciting’ in terms of Exploration, ok?

Marlen: ok

Resonances; Are you guys… first point let’s start with yourself in your world, Sexually are you guys Exploring various different things or is it still the same Pattern Physically ‘playing out’ in terms of positioning

Jorn: I’d say it’s more or less the same, we do explore somewhat

Marlen: yeah

Jorn: but also the same things coming by so, I’d say

Resonance: Not too much of Exploring

Jorn: No

Marlen: Not really, not yet

Resonance: Ok cause that is also playing a major role within the, the ‘Twilight Zone’ that you’re Currently in so to speak in terms of the Acceptance of Staying in this particular Frequency where you’re just kind of ‘floating’, yeah where it’s not ‘uplifting’ you into an Exciting Discovery of Yourself Physically,

Marlen: Like challenging?

Resonances: Yes, ‘Challenging’ meaning Exploring and Expanding Yourself within the Experience of Yourself because this I mean we can play with the Physical in relation to Sex in various ways and, within that Exploring Physically, your Expression becomes quite interesting, more for the Female at the moment and for the Male, the Male at the moment is just a Supportive Role for the Female –but, you can have her in all her sorts of various different Expressions in relations to screams and body movements by just having various ‘ways of playing’ and then within that for the Male is very fun, because it’s interesting, it’s almost like ‘Inviting something to come out’ and you don’t know what’s gonna come out and then it’s just, it’s Here and you’re having this Experience with her –it’s very very interesting.
Ok, so in relation to Sexual Playing I’ll have Esteni and Sunette gonna talk to you both and see what we can arrange there to have a, make it a bit more fun and exciting to bring some ‘spice’ into your Agreement and the Experience of Yourselves

Marlen: Ok

Resonances: So we can get some –dare I say ‘Life’ into your Eyes, and experience because it’s now Time you’ve waited now for long enough let’s say it’s sufficient Time of just getting the two of you Stable and Quiet in terms of way on how you are in your Integrating your Living Principles of your Agreement – we’ve checked it I mean it’s Physically Manifesting, it’s Here, you’re ready to take on the Challenges of the World, now you can start ‘going for it’ you know like really going out there and Living from within yourself so to speak, to take on the World.
So I’d say in terms of that is, may I have a look what skills you have, take them see how and where can you use them on to what projects are busy happening, what’s going on – in terms of your Art maybe have a look also ask Bernard if he’s got any other Projects that’s happening, opening up or I suggest you focus on for example, I think it was a while back the Face World point

Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: the Education Faces and the Law Faces and the Government Faces and all those type of things, so you can play with that I think the interview is still on the Network where you can re listen to it. Jorn, same point have a look what are you good at, what can you do Practially Physically that will Stimulate People to Think, that’s what you’ve gotta do –How can I Assimilate People to start thinking? Because it’s an Interesting thing, is in terms of – what I mean by ‘Think’ I don’t mean Thought Manifestation thinking, ‘Thinking’ is in Essence for people out there in the Matrix, the first step of asking questions. So you first got ‘Thinking’ about something and it starts mulling inside the head and then after the ‘Thinking Process’ the ‘Asking questions’ come from because the Thinking kind of Initiates the Being to Start taking into Consideration the World and themselves Within the World, then ‘Asking questions’ comes the more they ‘Pursue it’ and then from the ‘Asking questions’ they lead themselves to ‘Common Sense’ and then from ‘Common Sense’ comes a Realization – from the Realization comes ‘Oh, I have to do something’

Jorn: yeah right

Resonances: which is quite a Process

Jorn: Like break the automated way of thinking

Resonances: yes, see how and where you can start doing that and Engage in the Questions that’s been Asked or the Perspective that’s being thrown, so you have your Communication going with your ‘Fans’ so to speak, ok?
Yeah Marlen do videos, both videos of your Experiences, your Agreement in terms of – I’d do Vlogs wherein you both from the beginning just share your Starting Point, how you got to a Point where it hasn’t been a thing that had Unnecessary ‘rifts’ and ‘conflicts’ and things like that, it’ll contribute to many Beings’ Experiences within Agreement where they Realize it doesn’t have to be so ‘Extremely Difficult’ I mean, I’m certain in the beginning it’s difficult as the things come up and there’s some Resistances and Fears and god knows what –but the ‘Intensity of Difficulty’ doesn’t have to the Absolute Extremes that some Experience it. If you just walk your Three Base Principles of Communication, Immediate Self Correction and then Supporting Each Other within the Correction that’s being Lived, ok?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: Is there anything else?
You guys have to, the Question you have to Ask Yourself to make sure that you Push Yourself Constantly is: ‘How can I Contribute’, ‘Where can I Contribute’ – and within that Contribution ‘Where and how can I Challenge Myself’ find Challenges. Challenges meaning a point wherein you have to literally Physically Push Yourself to Expand Yourself in this Reality. So you guys are now Walking the Physical Process of having to Physically Self Move, where Nothing and No one is going to tell you know ok listen you’ve got to Move, come, take my hand, let’s move’ –It’s an Actual you have to Step, you have to take that Step and Move
Does that, do you Understand that?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah, definitely

Resonances: is it Clear?

Jorn/Marlen: Yeah

Resonances: ok yes just you go talk… suggest now I’m also going to send you to Bernard what is it does he have any Projects in mind he might have something for you, also you, what can you do particularly specifically to Stimulate People, does he have a suggestion for direction, ok? It might not be immediately, it might be related to seeing how the Process Cycles go where you can ‘fit yourselves in’ so to speak

Jorn: yeah the vlog is definitely a cool suggestion to make a vlog of all my experience of the Agreement so that’s something that’s easy to do and that’s also Supportive for myself to speak about the Experience

Resonances: for you both to see: is there any like fine frequency points in
your voice that’s indicating points that you haven’t considered or things like that and you just start looking at you hear your words, you see where you falter with words or you find you’re going into an Experience and just, look at it for yourself –but it’s very cool I mean both are really Stable and are ready now to go out and

Marlen: Expand

Resonance: Expand more, change, have more of an … time to Explore Physically now, Sexually and Movement wise. But you’ll find that in having your call it your ‘Sex Life’ more ‘Explorative’, you will find your Experience in your Expression becomes more easier and you’ll find the Infinite Expressions that occur, Communication with People will be easier your… makes a lot of things a lot more simpler and enjoyable, it’s very interesting.
Ok, so that’s it.